Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
“All 57 of the members of the Buffalo Police Department's Emergency Response Team resigned Friday from the unit which responds to riots and other crowd control situations, the president of the union that represents Buffalo police officers told The Buffalo News.
Two law enforcement sources confirmed the resignations.”
If they're thugs who unnecessarily attack people like that, then they should not be police officers.
I saw that video, and the attack on the guy was entirely unnecessary. He was not attacking or resisting arrest, nor were the cops overwhelmed and under attack by others at the time.
They bashed him just because they could, then left him for dead with blood pouring out of his ears.
Use appropriate force for the situation at hand. There were plenty of more reasonable options at their disposal to retain him.
“All 57 of the members of the Buffalo Police Department's Emergency Response Team resigned Friday from the unit which responds to riots and other crowd control situations, the president of the union that represents Buffalo police officers told The Buffalo News.
Two law enforcement sources confirmed the resignations.”
Yes, I can blame them, and I would fire them for not being able to understand that it's not OK to shove a 75-yr-old man to the ground and then leave him to die as blood flows from his head.
The reason we are having protests/riots is because other cops seemed unable to understand that kneeling on a cuffed and controlled individual for nine minutes, and causing his death, is not OK.
I don't agree with the people and groups that have attached themselves to this issue for their own political purposes, and I certainly don't condone rioting and looting, but that doesn't make the police any less wrong.
I agree, but I think they are more upset about the lack of support from the government officials over time and then the straw that broke the camel's back was the union not helping the 2 officers at all.
Why take a risky job like that when the politicians and now police union don't support you? These are dangerous times for the officers and they were told the union would support them legally on such issues.
What support should the union have provided?
They originally lied and said that the man was injured due to protesters.
They pushed him.
And if that wasn’t bad enough, they stopped one of their number from stopping to help him when he was on the ground.
How does the union defend that?
How does anyone?
Clearly, these 57 officers believe that it is defensible.
As do all of the others who cheered the two arrested when they were released on their own recognizance.
How it is possible that they don’t see anything wrong with pushing a 75-year old man to the ground?
There is such a serious systemic problem here it is almost beyond belief.
They were told that if they volunteered for this extremely risky job within the police force that the union would pay their legal fees if an issue arose. The first issue came up and the union back peddaled on their promise under pressure from politicians under pressure from the rioters these police have to control.
Now they don't have a riot response team. Hopefully the riots stop for the city's sake.
Yes. It's another example of our police getting out of control.
The police union boss John Evans was quoted, "“Fifty-seven resigned in disgust because of the treatment of two of their members, who were simply executing orders”
Were the two cops ordered to walk away from a man bleeding from a cracked skull? How does negligently ignoring an injured person 'serve and protect' the public?
Was the police spokesperson ordered to lie and say that the elderly man "tripped and fell"?
-----------
A distinct pattern of police misconduct has emerged that includes many examples of excessive force. If the 57 cops don't want to serve on the riot squad with professionalism and accountability, let them walk.
Wait, they were executing orders?
Their shift commander told them to purposely injure people they met along the way?
What was the 75 year old radical saying to the police when he walks up to them?
The Left is cool with using all sorts of immoral tactics to push their radicalism.
Little babies on the freeway? Cool with them.
Elderly people violating curfew and putting themselves in situations that aren't safe for anyone, much less a frail old man? Cool with the Left.
The Left has proven itself to be incredibly lacking in morals and will use anyone or anything as a tool to push their communist agenda.
Can you all imagine if this old man would have been black? Heck we would be probably seeing still yet more lunacy than we have had to endure the last week.
It doesn't matter what he was saying to them. He wasn't attacking them, and their response was unjustifiably violent. We don't attack, maim, kill in this nation just because someone "said something."
Speaking of morals, you need to look into the mirror and ask yourself why you defend a Gestapo approach to law enforcement that justifies unnecessarily violently attacking peaceful protesters and then leaving them for dead on the ground. That's where the "incredibly lacking" part comes in. You would be more at home in a police state like China than a democratic republic like we have here.
Try watching the unedited version of the video and you will see the cops did render aid to him.
Can you post a link or say where that unedited video can be found?. I looked for it and found countless 25-40 second videos showing just the time between the man's approach to the police officer, the officer pushing him, the man tripping backwards, falling, the police officer bending down to help, and being pulled back by the second officer, and a couple more officers passing by without stopping- all in a span of about 30 seconds or less on the video. Guess it'll have to come from a search engine other than Google or Chrome, that's for sure.
I'm told some of those videos show the man appeared to be acting belligerently towards the officer- no excuse for him being pushed, for sure, and the officer that pushed him speaking into his radio as he bent down to see about the man, saying they needed an EMT/ambulance there stat.
The point is that all that's shown is a 25-40 second video from endless sources, and total condemnation by the viewers of those videos, including politicians, Hollywood types, and John Q anxious to jump on the "police brutality" bandwagon based solely on what they saw/perceived/assumed from those videos. With no thoughts in their zeal to be judge, jury and executioner for these guys that there was a lot more happening before and after that than was shown on those videos. Including that 1) they were attempting to clear the area of protestors at the instructions of their superiors ( their chief or the mayor, I don't know which),2) were reportedly getting flack from the protestors, and 3)they DID render aid to the man who had fallen. It would likely take more than 30 seconds to do all this, not that the reporter who videoed the event would have been interested in anything other than fanning the flames of "police brutality" and not interested in filming the event in any context.
Sure, the matter should be investigated, and any appropriate corrective action taken, but I find the faux outrage and condemnation of these officers by the masses based on assumptions from a 30 second video, as well as total lack of support by their superiors and local politicians appalling. There's no giving them the benefit of the doubt, reviewing the event in context and getting all the facts before the officers are hung out to dry and demands made for their heads. I don't blame them one bit for the crisis respond unit's telling them, "to hell with this" and quitting en masse.
Yes, let's all take pity on those poor officers meanwhile unarmed black men and women are being killed with no justice. And peaceful protestors are needlessly tear gassed, shot at and clubbed and an elderly man shoved straight to the sidewalk.
Oh, those poor cops. Will they ever get a break?
Today, there’s a picture making the rounds of a homeless man in a wheel chair with blood gushing from his forehead after being shot with a rubber bullet.
What threat did he pose, I wonder.
My 85 year old dad sits at his house watching westerns on TV all day. He probably does not even know anything about these protests. If he decided yesterday to get in his car and go downtown to handle some personal business and a line of police starting marching towards him, he would not know what to do or where to go.
If that is true you shouldn't be allowing him to drive.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.