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Originally Posted by chopper455
Whenever slavery and white guilt is mentioned, I like to remind people about the triangle trade. Where 1/3 of that trade was the African kings and rulers who actively participated and profited from selling their own people. Do their descendents share the guilt too?
The descendants are mad because the kings of Africa squandered their slave-selling wealth and did not create any lasting civilizational foundations, institutions, etc.
Look at Mansa Musa.... richest man ever to live. African. Dealt in slaves with the Arabs. Left nothing behind that had any kind of staying power for the African people. He lived before the first European stumbled south of the Sahara in west Africa.
Don't deflect. Everyone has empathy for George. This was a moment squandered by the BLM crowd, btw.
I am asking you: Do black people have empathy only for George Floyd? Only for those killed by white cops?
White America has a PRESENT DAY problem with being victimized by minorities at rates that are disproportionate. This causes them to fear black inter-personal violence, which is demonstrable. Do you empathize with the white community's feelings in this regard? Do you empathize with someone who says blacks must atone in general for their PRESENT DAY actions against whites at large?
I empathize with anybody who is unjustly attacked, no matter what they look like or who they are.
I'd love to see the evidence that white America is being victimized by minorities at a disproportionate rate.
That may be so... but there seems to be very little push back. And if there is, that person is tagged as a racist.
I am only reacting to what I see.
I am continuing to think through on this as events happen.
Well, I've said it before.....white folks are apathetic as all get out. And in recent years we've been told to mind our own business, so we do. I think most of us feel if the liberals want to feel guilty and apologize, have at it. Then we just go about our daily lives as we do with most things.
I believe we're all trying to unwrap what's been happening around us. I appreciate your consistently reasoned and thoughtful posts on this and all matters.
Either isn't paying attention, or is just disingenuous. ^^^^^^
This is why all of this is hopeless. People fixate on a few ridiculous individuals at the fringes of the argument and extrapolate them to be representative of "everybody". And most people are too myopic to recognize that.
It's too bad that the Rally to Restore Sanity didn't stick (almost ten years ago now). People are more paranoid than ever.
George Floyd was killed unjustly, and his killer deserves life in prison.
They are putting halos over his head during the memorial..this is a man who was convicted of a home invasion robbery where a black woman said he held a gun to her pregnant belly.
I mean, can any black people here see that there is something kinda out of line here?
06-09-2020, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dman72
George Floyd was killed unjustly, and his killer deserves life in prison.
They are putting halos over his head during the memorial..this is a man who was convicted of a home invasion robbery where a black woman said he held a gun to her pregnant belly.
I mean, can any black people here see that there is something kinda out of line here?
Does not matter to the loons who see him as representative of something larger - the black mans struggle against whitey. His criminality is because of racism. It's turtles (racism) all the way down. It's class/identity politics. The funny thing is if we play this chain of cause all the way back to racial slavery everyone seems to think that this is where it ends. But racial slavery was born out of a preexisting slavery that had nothing to do with racism.
It does no good to use the past to solve the issues of the present by appealing to whitey history.
You have to look at it from the perspective of our neo-Marxist friends on the left, if you are middle class, you are more privileged than the poor, thus you are an oppressor, if you are from an intact family, you are more privileged than those from broken families or those without families, thus you are an oppressor.
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