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Old 06-15-2020, 08:15 AM
 
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BREAKING: Major win for LGBT rights at #SCOTUS with 6-3 decision that federal law bars workplace discrimination against gays, lesbian and transgender. GORSUCH writes for Dem appointees. ROBERTS agrees. ALITO/THOMAS/KAVANAUGH dissent.
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:28 AM
 
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One place that comes to mind that has the right to deny a person a job because they choose to be transgender, might be a church that by this person displaying their choice to be that way - and many religious people believe it is a choice - and it goes against their religious convictions/beleifs, that person might not be able to work there, if their lifestyle choices are against the moral standards of the church. Since the church has to employ people who follow their religious beliefs, then that person might just be naturally not right for the job.


is this discrimination or is it that the transgender is refusing to follow the moral code of the church, maybe the church would have to say to all future employees - a list of regulations that they must adhere to in order to be employed. if transgenerism is not allowed, then this would state they cant be an employee.


so in other words, when a company has a duty to display certain moral practices and beliefs, then they are going to have a problem with people they consider immoral to work there. there might be other institutions like Christian colleges with the same concerns. And rightly so.


For example, a church cannot let a practicing prostitute work there if they are going to continue their sex work. Or maybe the institution would not allow other kinds of people involved in morally objectionable lifestyles/habits/etc work there.
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:36 AM
 
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Take that, Trump! (lawyers for the Trump admin had argued against the rights of the gay people)
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:40 AM
 
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Take that, Trump! (lawyers for the Trump admin had argued against the rights of the gay people)
That's exactly what I was thinking when I read it I can't wait until he tries to explain this loss to "his" evangelicals.
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:42 AM
 
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That's exactly what I was thinking when I read it I can't wait until he tries to explain this loss to "his" evangelicals.
He lost on sanctuary in California too. And gun rights challenges to new restrictions were all refused. But the gay rights thing was a BIG ONE. Many states, including my own, do not offer any protection to gay persons in employment matters. That will change now and that change is a good thing.
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:45 AM
 
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Huge win for LGBT. Before this SCOTUS ruling, someone could be fired for being gay and it was perfectly legal in many states.

Now it's illegal at the federal level(thus all states) to fire someone or refuse to hire someone for the sole reason that they are LGBT. Many people had to hide their status because it could cause them to get fired and it was legal.
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:46 AM
 
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Take that, Trump! (lawyers for the Trump admin had argued against the rights of the gay people)
Trump appointee Gorsuch wrote the majority opinion.

Even Trump appointee Kavanaugh added this in his dissent:
"Notwithstanding my concern about the Court’s transgression of the Constitution’s separation of powers, it is appropriate to acknowledge the important victory achieved today by gay and lesbian Americans. Millions of gay and lesbian Americans have worked hard for many decades to achieve equal treatment in fact and in law. They have exhibited extraordinary vision, tenacity, and grit—battling often steep odds in the legislative and judicial arenas, not to mention in their daily lives. They have advanced powerful policy arguments and can take pride in today’s result."
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:48 AM
 
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Trump appointee Gorsuch wrote the majority opinion.

Even Trump appointee Kavanaugh added this in his dissent:
"Notwithstanding my concern about the Court’s transgression of the Constitution’s separation of powers, it is appropriate to acknowledge the important victory achieved today by gay and lesbian Americans. Millions of gay and lesbian Americans have worked hard for many decades to achieve equal treatment in fact and in law. They have exhibited extraordinary vision, tenacity, and grit—battling often steep odds in the legislative and judicial arenas, not to mention in their daily lives. They have advanced powerful policy arguments and can take pride in today’s result."
In happy to see that Gorsuch was persuaded to go with the majority so we did not have another "controversial" 5-4 decision. Good job by Roberts.
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:49 AM
 
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Trump appointee Gorsuch wrote the majority opinion.

Even Trump appointee Kavanaugh added this in his dissent:
"Notwithstanding my concern about the Court’s transgression of the Constitution’s separation of powers, it is appropriate to acknowledge the important victory achieved today by gay and lesbian Americans. Millions of gay and lesbian Americans have worked hard for many decades to achieve equal treatment in fact and in law. They have exhibited extraordinary vision, tenacity, and grit—battling often steep odds in the legislative and judicial arenas, not to mention in their daily lives. They have advanced powerful policy arguments and can take pride in today’s result."
Good for Gorsuch!

No one should lost their livelihood because of their sexual orientation.
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:53 AM
 
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BREAKING: Major win for LGBT rights at #SCOTUS with 6-3 decision that federal law bars workplace discrimination against gays, lesbian and transgender. GORSUCH writes for Dem appointees. ROBERTS agrees. ALITO/THOMAS/KAVANAUGH dissent.
I certainly don't want a man turned woman teaching at my elementary school. I hope the employers still have their freedom in hiring, even though it potentially paves way for the "Social justice" discrimination law suits against them.
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