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Old 06-18-2020, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I completely agree with that. It's always a tragedy when people are raised to be violent criminals rather than decent people. I have no doubt that Brooks could have been a decent person if not for an incompetent upbringing.
Crime is a choice of the individual who commits the crime.

Blaming upbringing portrays the criminal as a victim and the intent is to rationalize and absolve the criminal of his/ her choice.
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:50 AM
 
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Those are normal sentences describing the situation. Any shrill you hear is an echo in your head. When that hand is a violent government hand we have to address the situation.
The problem is we have too many unmanageable idiots roaming around free. Let’s get them off the streets and all your imaginary cop problems will disappear with them.
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:56 AM
 
Location: NC
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The media's probably very conveniently not mentioning these facts. I believe he had charges in Ohio and Georgia by the way.

Because they are in no way relevant to his murder at the hands of two rogue cops.

(I absolutely believe that the overwhelming majority of cops are good cops, and that they are heroes. I do not conflate them with these two criminals who murdered Brooks.)
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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He may not have been an angel. But the Officer had no right to be Judge and Jury and convict and execute the death penalty on him...because he was drunk in a car at Wendy's. The man was no threat to them, he was running away from them at the time. I guess it's easier or more fun to shoot someone in the back than to chase them down and arrest them. Then kick him and stand on him, while he lays dying.


There are good Police Officers, but there are a few bad ones too. We need to weed out the bad ones. My husband use to be a Police Officer, he said they were only allowed to shoot if they were threatened or someone else was threatened, that you can't shoot someone running away from you.
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:56 AM
 
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Crime is a choice of the individual who commits the crime.

Blaming upbringing portrays the criminal as a victim and the intent is to rationalize and absolve the criminal of his/ her choice.
I believe to a certain extent they are victims of their upbringing. Their parents than those in their communities have failed them.

Now that doesn't excuse their actions, it just explains what went wrong with them that contributed to them being a feral human that needs to be put down. In the end, the individual faces all of the consequences and that is just, but that doesn't mean we can't reflect on the things that led to them being who they are.

Incompetent or absent parents, poisonous subcultures, and the kind of people you associate with and look up to all mold what kind of person you will be. If you could go back in time and have Rayshard Brooks raised by competent parents who instill proper values and ethics who don't allow him to get in with overly negative influences, I highly doubt he'd end up a drunk child abuser who died attacking police.
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Boulder, CO
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Oh Geez! LOL, God knows how many white women that were in danger at the time!!!

Every single one out on the road, while he was driving.
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:57 AM
 
Location: NC
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Of course not. They just show video of the mother crying that he was a great father! Really? To get battery charges he had to have struck the kids and went to jail for it. Cruelty to children means he did something henious like maybe starve them or something awful.

The guy was real piece of garbage:

The crime is actually called “cruelty to children” and it is divided into 3 degrees. First degree cruelty to children requires that the person intentionally cause a child under the age of eighteen “cruel or excessive physical or mental pain.” Second degree cruelty to children only requires that the person cause such physical or mental pain with “criminal negligence” instead of any specific intent to cause harm. Third degree child cruelty is a different type of offense which involves a person who is engaged in fighting or some other type of violent conduct in the presence of a child. First degree cruelty to children carries a prison term from five to twenty years, second degree is punished by up to ten years in prison, and third degree child cruelty is a misdemeanor.
Do you think his murder, without a trial, was justified because of his past crimes? If you do, just please understand that you do not support our constitution.
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:59 AM
 
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Nope, the only fact that matters is whether the officer was in reasonable fear that his life was in danger. The evidence establishes that he was.

You liberals can defend the criminals and kid-beaters all you want, but the law doesn't care that you adore evil human beings.
Plenty of Liberals here saying it's okay to smash your kids face in, rape interns, take a taser (lethal weapon) and point it at a police officer. The police officer was DOING his job arresting someone for a DUI. Stop pretending he was a great guy and that Biden never raped anyone and that the dude did not steal the taser and shoot it at the officer.
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:59 AM
 
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Do you think his murder, without a trial, was justified because of his past crimes? If you do, just please understand that you do not support our constitution.
He wasn't murdered, he was shot in self defense while pointing a weapon at police. Watch the video of it happen for yourself rather than continuing to parrot false talking points.
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Old 06-18-2020, 10:00 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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He may not have been an angel. But the Officer had no right to be Judge and Jury and convict and execute the death penalty on him...because he was drunk in a car at Wendy's. The man was no threat to them, he was running away from them at the time. I guess it's easier or more fun to shoot someone in the back than to chase them down and arrest them. Then kick him and stand on him, while he lays dying.


There are good Police Officers, but there are a few bad ones too. We need to weed out the bad ones. My husband use to be a Police Officer, he said they were only allowed to shoot if they were threatened or someone else was threatened, that you can't shoot someone running away from you.
Until you've been in a situation where your life has been threatened, you are in no position to judge him.

He was no threat? He resisted arrest, stole the cop's taser AND USED IT on him. You people are so detached from common sense and reality that it is truly scary.
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