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Old 07-03-2020, 11:17 PM
 
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I think this is totally appropriate.

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Old 07-03-2020, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The study analyzed 2,541 patients hospitalized among the system’s six hospitals between March 10 and May 2 and found 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine died while 26% of those who did not receive the drug died.

So to put it simply...

13 patients out of 100 treated with hydroxychloroquine passed away

26 of those 100 who were not treated with the drug passed away
If that drug was so effective, hardly anyone would have died.
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:23 PM
 
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If that drug was so effective, hardly anyone would have died.
Look at the statistic from Turkey. The death rate is about half of other countries. That means maybe 60,000 could have been saved. And it is a very well tolerated drug but the fake news media convinced people that it was dangerous.
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Remdesivir works on people who are really sick in the ICU where Hydroxychloroquine most likely works if they take it when first contract the virus. The cost of Remdesivir will be about $1500 for medicare patients and $3000 for weeks worth for private insurance.

By the time they run all the trials and studies the entire event will be over with.
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:53 PM
 
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What you posted is absolute nonsense.


Are you saying Turkey has a mortality rate from COVID-19 compared to Taiwan or North Korea? If so, what is your source?
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"As long as measures are followed, we do not expect a new wave of Covid-19 in Turkey," he said, adding that compared to several European countries and the US, Turkey has a low death rate of 2.3 percent, compared to the number of positive cases.

When we look at other developed countries, the death rate in the US is 5.3 percent, Spain is 10.5 percent, Italy is 13.2 percent, Germany is 3.5 percent, the UK is 13.5 percent, France is 17.3 percent.
https://www.trtworld.com/turkey/why-...n-turkey-35688

Compared to other European countries it is doing well in spite of a widespread outbreak.
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Old 07-04-2020, 10:02 PM
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The study was skewed. With that being said, i think it should be up to the patient's family to decide if they want the drug to be used on their loved one or not. Give them options and have them sign a waiver.

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Old 07-04-2020, 11:05 PM
 
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India has started using it now.They claim 3 studies showed it helped.

India expands use of controversial drug for coronavirus despite safety concerns
Top medical agency says its studies show hydroxychloroquine can prevent infection, but regulators in other countries are investigating adverse effects.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01619-8

Here's the one published study:

Healthcare workers & SARS-CoV-2 infection in India: A case-control investigation in the time of COVID-19 Chatterjee P, Anand T, Singh KJ, Rasaily R, Singh R, Das S, Singh H, Praharaj I, Gangakhedkar RR, Bhargava B, Panda S - Indian J Med Res

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Old 07-04-2020, 11:52 PM
 
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Hydroxy been used for years not sure why they say it's so dangerous why do they give it to Lupis patents then. Just another medical tool which has been politicized.

I'm not sure it's really a good drug to use for covid unless you plan on giving it to everyone who has any symptom. It seems to only work on people who get it very early in the progression from when they have their first symptom.
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Old 07-05-2020, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Hydroxy been used for years not sure why they say it's so dangerous why do they give it to Lupis patents then. Just another medical tool which has been politicized.

I'm not sure it's really a good drug to use for covid unless you plan on giving it to everyone who has any symptom. It seems to only work on people who get it very early in the progression from when they have their first symptom.
There are known adverse effects from hydroxychloroquine, particularly on the heart. COVID-19 can also cause adverse effects on the heart. Therefore, giving the drug to very sick people with COVID-19 appears not to help and may actually make them sicker. Current studies are looking at giving it to people at high risk to get infected to see if it can prevent or lessen the severity of symptoms if infection does occur.
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Old 07-05-2020, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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There are known adverse effects from hydroxychloroquine, particularly on the heart. COVID-19 can also cause adverse effects on the heart. Therefore, giving the drug to very sick people with COVID-19 appears not to help and may actually make them sicker. Current studies are looking at giving it to people at high risk to get infected to see if it can prevent or lessen the severity of symptoms if infection does occur.
That's why I said it's not a good choice for someone who is in the ICU with Covid. The early studies showed that it worked much better for people who took it early on. The problem is people won't go see a doctor until the symptoms are such that they can't breath by that time it's too late to use it.
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