Far from :herd immunity" with COVID

[Jax_G]

Originally Posted by mascoma

Only a few months obviously. It didn't start there until March. But just because antibodies fade that doesn't mean T cell immunity isn't there.


https://news.ki.se/immunity-to-covid...sts-have-shown

And many people may have immunity without even being exposed.

T cells may help COVID-19 patients — and people never exposed to the virus
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...-immune-system

This is really encouraging.

[Icy Tea]

I just read an article that says immunity of the virus is at least for several weeks.

[bobbythegreat]

Originally Posted by roodd279

If you mean - not many people die, percentage-wise - true. But 100K is alot, regardless of percentage

Is really not when you consider how many of them were about to die anyway. If you have end stage lung cancer or COPD but you catch COVID-19 before those other things kill you it doesn't mean you'd live much longer had you not caught it. Nearly 60% of all COVID-19 deaths are people over 75 years old, 80% over 65.

There are about 800k people in the US that die from COPD or lung cancer every single year....a lot of them will instead die from COVID-19.

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by BentBow

Coronaviruses have been around since the start of mankind.
It is nothing new..... and you are right. Coronavirus is here to stay, as it always has been.

SARS COVID-1984 is just the same crap with a media twist to stir panic and chaos.

This coronavirus is new.

Originally Posted by bobbythegreat

Is really not when you consider how many of them were about to die anyway. If you have end stage lung cancer or COPD but you catch COVID-19 before those other things kill you it doesn't mean you'd live much longer had you not caught it. Nearly 60% of all COVID-19 deaths are people over 75 years old, 80% over 65.

There are about 800k people in the US that die from COPD or lung cancer every single year....a lot of them will instead die from COVID-19.

Many of those who die would have lived for years. It is not that the virus can cherry pick people who would have died this year.

[roodd279]

"Is really not when you consider how many of them were about to die anyway."


Sort of - and that's exactly why I'm talking about hospital beds and not morgues.

[JG183]

Originally Posted by mike1003

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...483-5/fulltext

Selection bias ?

The Seroepidemiological Survey of SARS-CoV-2 Virus Infection in Spain (Encuesta Seroepidemiológica de la Infección por el Virus SARS-CoV-2 en España; ENE-COVID) is a nationwide population-based cohort study to investigate seropositivity for SARS-CoV-2 in the non-institutionalised (ie, excluding care-home residents, hospitalised people, people in prisons, nuns and friars in convents, and residents in other collective residences) Spanish population.

Hard to take any study seriously that excludes >50% of data points!

[mascoma]

Originally Posted by JG183

Selection bias ?

Hard to take any study seriously that excludes >50% of data points!

Good find. I scanned the paper and didn't see that. Wake Forrest is going to keep doing its study until they have 500,000 participants. They are only up to 20,000 now.