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Old 07-11-2020, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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I see some of you still struggle with the distinction between a peaceful protester and a looter. Come back when you are more informed.

By all accounts this was a peaceful protest, no different than a picket line. Would it be OK to draw down on a picket line? No and it's not OK to draw down on a group of peaceful protesters.
A picket line is different than an unpredictable group of protestors standing on your property, and there is a difference between "peaceful protestors" and a group of thugs who broke down your gate and were threatening to kill you and take over your home.
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Old 07-11-2020, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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So to review this couple felt the need to confront the protesters who then threatened them (allegedly). Where they marching on their house? No they were passing the McCloskeys' house on the way to the mayor's when they were confronted by armed citizens where the verbal exchange began I assume. Please correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm only going by the article in the OP which described the events this way. It also clearly said that the march was peaceful.

So if what I described is true you do not get to confront protesters with guns for simply exercising their First Amendment rights.
Per the bolded, that isn't what happened though.

The 300+ protesters entered private property, via a gate with clear signage in a loud and angry sounding group (the term "peaceful protest" is obviously very flexible)

And yes, they stated they were going to protest the mayors home, which was carried by the media also.

But, (pay attention now) the mayor does not live on Portland Place in that gated private community. She lives many blocks away. They protesters were in the wrong place, and and by all indications left the same way they entered (which is likely when the private gate was broken down).

So, why were the protesters in that private area at all? Raging against the bourgeois? Simply lost and stupid? Don't expect the media to track that info down for anybody.

If you had 300+ angry sounding protesters enter your property, and chant, shout and pound drums at your front lawn, would you not be a bit, concerned?

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Old 07-11-2020, 08:14 AM
 
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Wow. I would personally get the hell out of St Louis or hire SEVERAL armed guards.
They didn’t defend their homes.

They pointed guns at protestors in the street.

Pointing guns at people like that is actually a crime.

It’s also not responsible gun ownership.

Sincerely,

A gun owner.

Ps the idiots made themselves targets. Shouldve been inside watching tv.
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Old 07-11-2020, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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You're wrong. The "protestors" damaged and broke through a gate and then proceeded to trespass on private property. Totally illegal. They then directly threatened the couple, and the couple armed themselves in self-defense.
Do you have a link to support this? It certainly was not explained this way in the link in the OP. If this is the case I would agree with you, but only if the threats came BEFORE the guns were brought into play which of course is a key. If they were not threatening the home owners and just trespassing on the road that is not a threat worthy of an armed confrontation.
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Old 07-11-2020, 08:29 AM
 
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It's sickening! The McCloskeys were doing everything within the law and Missouri is a Stand Your Ground state, it's a fact that the couple were being threatened by a group of protestors who broke down the couple's gate, and knowing that the police were asked to stand down, the McCloskeys had every right to do what they did and DA Gardner (a progressive Democrat) had absolutely no reason to seize their firearms.

This is a sign of things to come when progressive Democrats get elected.
I agree, Im wondering why they didnt try to defend themselves against police coming and taking their firearms?!!!


This is America for petes sake! the police coming to take their firearms were just as wrong as what the protesters did! American citizens are NOT to comply with this sort of thing...EVER.
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Old 07-11-2020, 08:36 AM
 
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....Step by step it comes for you...
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Old 07-11-2020, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Amen.

And now they want to flip the script on who's the criminal and who's the victim.
Yep, selective harassment is one trait of the progressive left.
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Old 07-11-2020, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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Do you have a link to support this? It certainly was not explained this way in the link in the OP. If this is the case I would agree with you, but only if the threats came BEFORE the guns were brought into play which of course is a key. If they were not threatening the home owners and just trespassing on the road that is not a threat worthy of an armed confrontation.
It doesnt appear the gate was damaged when the mob entered. There is video of one protester holding the (intact) gate open for the rest to flow in (past clear signs that state Private Property, Residents Only).
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Old 07-11-2020, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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I agree, Im wondering why they didnt try to defend themselves against police coming and taking their firearms?!!!

This is America for petes sake! the police coming to take their firearms were just as wrong as what the protesters did! American citizens are NOT to comply with this sort of thing...EVER.
The police were only doing what they were told to do by people higher up. Where are the authorities when the more dangerous Antifa and BLM, some of whom were armed, took over an area in Seattle, and 2 people who had nothing to do with those groups got killed? Are authorities going to known Antifa and BLM members' residences and seizing their weapons?
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Old 07-11-2020, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Seems like DA Gardner also forgot about the clause in the Second Amendment that says: The right of people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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