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They think the government, in conjunction with the media, has manufactured Covid to gain control over the population.
That is not what they think at all.
They think that globalists and other monied dark occultists are making power bids over world populations like they have always done, partially through their fifth column corporate media, charitable 'Foundations,' and peer influenced state and county level executive functionaries.
You might know more about your world if you weren't bragging all day about being an anarcho-capitalist to a commentariat that doesn't care.
They think that globalists and other monied dark occultists are making power bids over world populations like they have always done, partially through their fifth column corporate media, charitable 'Foundations,' and peer influenced state and county level executive functionaries.
You might know more about your world if you weren't bragging all day about being an anarcho-capitalist to a commentariat that doesn't care.
It's not right wingers who think it's a hoax, it's Trump supporters. There's a big difference, imo. They have to think it's a hoax, because the alternative is admitting how poorly Trump handled this.
The illusion of a difference is merely highlighted by these events.
All I'm saying is that not all of them are manufactured. Some are, some are natural, some are a hybrid.
I just don't think the owners need to put in any extra effort to "get one over" on the populace. They've been on cruise control since 1791 here in America, for example.
I don't think they manufactured the virus or its existence, but for sure the hysteria surrounding it is typical of the pattern of the media-political complex during an election year, as well as being typical for anything that can be used against the Bad Orange Man.
And I don't think they are doing this for more control over the population, but really just for "okay, this time we got him" purposes. The reaction worldwide is more for just digs at the US generally, regardless of who is in charge, but that's what the world does, hate on the US (and Israel).
The people think government can save them from entropy, or at least that is the media narrative, and allowing entropy to be entropy apparently is a failure of not being tyrannical enough. Oddly, the narrative seems to be fine blaming only one party for failures, and pretty specifically, just one guy in the one party.
I think it's all electioneering nonsense, same as every year that is evenly divisible by four. Only reason Trump gets this year's heat is because he's this election year's bad guy in charge. If Shrillary was POTUS right now, Fox News would be ablaze with how covid is her fault.
When it comes to "are they really in on it" theories, I ask two questions, and if both yes, then yeah, they are in it:
Is there money/power in it for them?
Is it a simple explanation?
The media-political complex blowing up the narrative is easy, because Americans are sheep who are easily frightened, and of course there's money and power in it for the bosses in that media-political complex if they get rid of him and elect a brain dead puppet.
Just election year hype.
What bugs me is that so much of the economy is based on confidence, and the destruction of that confidence in order to "get him" will have longer lasting downstream effects after they "get him" and they are all too freaking stupid to realize it.
as usual, almost completely agree.
as to the thoughts in the OP ... I would say that Vol expresses it much better than you, to whit:
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I don't think they manufactured the virus or its existence, but for sure the hysteria surrounding it is typical of the pattern of the media-political complex during an election year, as well as being typical for anything that can be used against the Bad Orange Man.
And I don't think they are doing this for more control over the population, but really just for "okay, this time we got him" purposes.
people like the OP are convinced that Republicans are idiots - that an overwhelming majority of us believe the virus is a "hoax" or was somehow a grand plan as the OP stated. It *could be* a grand plan on the CCP's part, but I don't think that either - but they ****ed up and covered up.
I've heard few people say they think this was all manufactured, but many have stated they feel the government takes advantage of events like this and the death of George Floyd to push their agenda.
That's not unheard of or unbelievable. We saw how the government used 9/11 to start abolishing civil liberties.
Then there are folks on the other side of the coin asking, 'how have our civil liberties been eroded?' as though they've been in a coma for 19 years.
Don't get me wrong - I don't like your worldview (How's that to start off a post? ) but you are as rational as one can be and hold it.
Meaning you don't go lock/stock/and barrel for one team or cause even with evidence against your position being shoved down your throat.
So yes, your post here is well-taken and pretty much what I'm talking about.
It's like when the Right had protesters marching on capitals earlier in the spring after getting tired of the restrictions.
On one hand, sure, I don't think the government has the right to place the draconian measures it did/and is still doing in place however I never saw those folks out there protesting against all the other crap the government has been doing to us prior to Covid.
Both teams have the principles and discipline of a 5-year-old on a sugar high. I'm just sick of it all.
Life is inevitably messy. Why bring the government, especially in the form of these two parties, in the mix unless you're a masochist? They only agree on one thing and it ain't your best interest.
as to the thoughts in the OP ... I would say that Vol expresses it much better than you, to whit:
people like the OP are convinced that Republicans are idiots - that an overwhelming majority of us believe the virus is a "hoax" or was somehow a grand plan as the OP stated. It *could be* a grand plan on the CCP's part, but I don't think that either - but they ****ed up and covered up.
Republicans are idiots.
That doesn't exclude Democrats from being idiots though.
It's not a mutually exclusive paradigm.
And Volobjectarian is going to agree with me on that.
Just when one team seems to have the moral/logical high ground (which in theory should be Republicans most of the time) they somehow make things so much worse that you are just left speechless...if you're a sane impartial observer.
Don't get me wrong - I don't like your worldview (How's that to start off a post? ) but you are as rational as one can be and hold it.
Meaning you don't go lock/stock/and barrel for one team or cause even with evidence against your position being shoved down your throat.
So yes, your post here is well-taken and pretty much what I'm talking about.
It's like when the Right had protesters marching on capitals earlier in the spring after getting tired of the restrictions.
On one hand, sure, I don't think the government has the right to place the draconian measures it did/and is still doing in place however I never saw those folks out there protesting against all the other crap the government has been doing to us prior to Covid.
Both teams have the principles and discipline of a 5-year-old on a sugar high. I'm just sick of it all.
Life is inevitably messy. Why bring the government, especially in the form of these two parties, in the mix unless you're a masochist? They only agree on one thing and it ain't your best interest.
But you know what's even worse than those of us you're criticizing? Standing in sewage and preaching to everyone else how stupid they are for standing in sewage.
I don't get this theory by the Right/Cons/Republicans when it comes to Covid. They think the government, in conjunction with the media, has manufactured Covid to gain control over the population.
Well that makes about as much sense as the Democrats creating the Creepy Uncle Joe monster to run for president so they can control him and thus control the people.
It's not right wingers who think it's a hoax, it's Trump supporters. There's a big difference, imo. They have to think it's a hoax, because the alternative is admitting how poorly Trump handled this.
Bingo. Acknowledging reality means accepting that Trump has done a terrible job with Covid.
And much like Trump himself, his supporters are very prideful and stubborn people. They'd rather believe bizarre, fake stories like Fauci is Deep State than publicly admit that Trump botched the pandemic. Badly.
I don't get this theory by the Right/Cons/Republicans when it comes to Covid. They think the government, in conjunction with the media, has manufactured Covid to gain control over the population.
"Government overreach" is the term I read and hear all the time coming from the Right.
It varies in how extreme they take it. We have posters saying it's real but question the numbers, try to deflect blame away from Trump, etc. Then we have other posters who say it isn't even real.
This thread is in no way a defense of the media or the Democratic Party. Those two entities can, and have, raped/robbed/killed with the best of them throughout history.
I guess my question is this: Why would the government, especially in 2020, need to specifically create a crisis to gain more control over people?
We first learned we are nothing more than slaves to these people in 1791 (the Whiskey Rebellion). Since then there have been numerous blows to the freedom of the individual. Lincoln's war, his first federal income tax, and not to mention him jailing the media. Wilson's Federal Reserve, FDR's imprisonment of American citizens, Nixon's crimes, LBJ's so-called Great Society, Bush's WMD, etc.
You've been raped, robbed, and killed over and over and over again.
And you've taken it lying it down. You're happy with the status quo. You continue to vote. You continue to believe in the system. They take and take...and you comply.
So let me be clear: While I'm not discounting the State's eagerness to use naturally occurring events as a means to be opportunistic and fatten their bellies at our expense I simply don't believe that it's necessary to invent every single thing that goes wrong in the world for political gain.
They manufactured the Civil War, the Federal Reserve, and some other things out of thin air.
Covid?
Nah. It happens because s*it happens.
I just think it's disingenuous and quite foolish to believe there isn't a difference there.
If anything, I would think these events, regardless of they are planned or not, would show how incompetent the State is to both sides of the aisle. Take it from an anarchist who is never happy with any government response. But the team players just seem to forget and move on. The government knows you're whipped. They'll create fake stuff but sometimes blank happens naturally. The fact that both teams can recognize this from time to time would lead one to believe that perhaps the notion of government is the problem...not just which team is winning the propaganda war.
Bc that's a smoke screen. There was never any concern about this being a govt plot for control. This is 100% virtue signaling for Trumo supporters. That's it. There wasn't a loftier purpose. All this was just to make Trump look LESS incompetent.
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