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Old 07-28-2020, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Also, there's something inherently stupid about using a poll where users self-identify as Conservatives as proof that Conservatives are not self-identifying as Trump supporters.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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What about the other side?

I think conservatives can go to hell. There, I said it.

Last week, I signed a lease with new tenants. I always go through line by line in the lease with new tenants and have them initial next to each paragraph. During our walk through and stuff, the husband kept trying to draw me into a political discussion. He's totally into Trump. His wife and I kept ignoring him and when that didn't work we told him we just live our lives no matter who is in office.

In real life, I never share my political view. Ever. I refuse to let people know what I believe.

No one can accuse me of bias when choosing tenants. I had half a dozen applicants to choose from for that house.

The point is you claim that there might be a lot of conservatives that don't share their political views. What about all the liberals like myself who never share our political views?
I think/know that the fascio-socialist liberals are pure evil and belong in hell




there I said it
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:43 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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This admin is solidly founded on "divide and conquer" approach, which mandates that people are pitted against each other as opposed to working through our differences. Its by design. Even the virus was converted into another tool to pit people against each other by repeating the "leftist conspiracy" lines. Only now with new surge in red States, that line was exposed as nothing but political propaganda.

It pretty much defines irrational fear. How many people do you know whose lives have been destroyed for discussing politics? I don't know any.
Of course. Blame your own divisiveness on Trump. That is to be expected. If it is Trump starting it, who is forcing the left to play along?

I don't personally know anyone who has been carjacked in Newark, NJ, but I know it happens all the time. So is it an irrational fear that when I am stopped at a light in my expensive car, I leave a lot of room in front of me and keep checking my mirrors?
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Placitas, New Mexico
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The silent majority are afraid to be honest about what they believe, even centrist liberals. This is why I believe Trump will win this coming November.


IHMO...all this polls are nothing more than spewing junk data. And I think the Democrat hierarchy knows it too!





https://www.cato.org/blog/poll-62-am...e-afraid-share
To extrapolate from that poll that you think therefore that Trump will win is pure wishful thinking. Whistling in the dark. And it's pretty dark right now for Trumpers.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:51 AM
 
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When there is nothing to be afraid of, the right-wing invents reasons to be afraid of, and then presents themselves as the solution to the problem. In the end of the day, they are always afraid of something. Its how they roll.
But aren't you afraid of Trump? You sure seem to be.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:52 AM
 
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The silent majority are afraid to be honest about what they believe, even centrist liberals. This is why I believe Trump will win this coming November.


IHMO...all this polls are nothing more than spewing junk data. And I think the Democrat hierarchy knows it too!





https://www.cato.org/blog/poll-62-am...e-afraid-share
Funny because in my circle -- most of us who don't support Trump don't dare say a thing.

That goes both ways you know
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:54 AM
 
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And this theory is stupid -- just stupid.

Polls are done anonymously. They don't take note, come out and find you. They are done on the phone, on line -- never in person

While Trump supporters are holding boat parades, wearing MAGA hats, refusing to wear masks as some kind of political support of him -- it is clear most are not shy about their allegiance to Trump
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Old 07-28-2020, 09:00 AM
 
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Surely some are simply ashamed to admit that support massive spending, debt, increased government involvement in trade etc things which are as un-conservative as you can be. Some evangelicals are ashamed they supported Trump who represents everything a Christian person would avoid, and that he did not deliver on abortion.

Nope. Nothing has been burned here, or anywhere else in FL as far as I know.

They are building a state of the art $100M police station few miles from where I live. Is that what you meant?
I see that you have your finger on the pulse of your wretched state.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/church-fi...-investigation

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/lo...4-ca8d274e1e29

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2...mi-police-car/

https://www.tampabay.com/news/2020/0...arson-charges/

Nothing to see here! All is well! All is well! Don't believe them lyin' eyes!
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Old 07-28-2020, 09:02 AM
 
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Really? The Left went on for 3 long years fearful of the boogey man and they still bring it up like a poltergeist demon that they call Russia Russia Russia. They blame Russia for helping Trump beat Hillary and they are still afraid that there is going to be outside influence in the election.







I do believe that many voters are fearful to admit that they like Trump because there is a real concern for violence. If you admit that you like Trump on social media you might be dumped on by the world. If you put a Trump sign in your yard it might be stolen. If you put a Trump 2024 bumper sticker on your truck it might be vandalized. If you wear a MAGA hat you might get beaten up. All of these things have really happened to people so there is a real fear for showing any positive support for our President.





I think all polls are wrong being skewed towards the results they want to achieve. Haven't we learned anything from the 2016 election?
I had a Trump sign up in 2020 as did some of my neighbors. All were stolen. I see a Trump 2020 flag but the house owner has it set up on a 15 ft flag pole with an American flag so no one can reach it. I've already said that I don't intend to put out a Trump sign this year because political feelings are so out of control. I would love to go to a Blue Lives Matter or Trump rally but won't because of the violence but I'll be at the polls at 6 am come election day.

And yes - 2016 was a fail for Democrats as Hillary was suppose to crush Trump - and that didn't happen but keep trying to convince yourselves otherwise.
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Old 07-28-2020, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The pollsters were not wrong in 2016. Clinton won the popular vote by several millions. The problem was she won them in the wrong places.
2.8 million.

That's less than the population of Los Angeles and statistically almost irrelevant in a country of over 300 million people.
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