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Originally Posted by Bitey
Free people get to choose when to speak and when not to speak, who to trust and who not to trust, and who to listen to and who not to listen to. UN-free people get TOLD by those who control the levers of power and communication who gets to speak, who to listen to, and who not to listen to. And the weak-willed Maoist sycophants LIKE it that way.
Yes, dear, in medicine when you start having to improvise you are overwhelmed.
No, overwhelmed is Italy's, "Sorry sir, but you're over 60. Yes you have the Chinese Communist Virus. No we won't help you. I'm afraid we're going to have to ask you to go home and die." That's overwhelmed.
Overwhelmed is like we saw in Spain with a nursing home that had been completely abandoned by the staff and pretty much everyone in it was dead, but nobody even noticed for about a week. That's overwhelmed.
Overwhelmed means you have to let a lot of people just die because you lack the capability of helping them.
I always respond when I hear the label "bigpharma" as it it means something other than an irrational prejudice.The image I see when I hear it is spoiled fruit being thrown against a truck...please don't ask me why.
For you who may be interested, pharmaceutical companies are the engines of world wide health and hope. Created by visionaries who have become very successful through exceedingly hard work and intelligence. Hope for the world in the form of medicines, many times given freely and with great economic costs to both our nation and these companies.
They are inspired by challenge and risk. They lose billions and earn billions in the development of medications which free people of all nations from slavery to disease and debility. Thousands upon thousands of medications, trials world wide and generosity without comparison.
Do they make money? You bet. Do they choose which medicines they don't give away? Surely they do. Are there flaws? Of course. Ours is not an easy world.
So the next time you here the term bpharma consider the billions of human lives they have saved over one hundred years.....try to think for yourself instead of being triggered by a silly little characterization of an eminent class of intelligent people
Go Ahead.....cite your exceptions, flame me. I stand in the trenches watching miraculous discoveries by these brilliant companies and the very talented people they employ....
MAGA
I have multiple medications that I have to take that cost more than $300 for 30 pills. That's ridiculous. No bottle of pills should ever cost more than a car payment. It sure as hell doesn't cost that much for the Pharmaceutical company to make the 30 pills, R&D included. Not even close. And they pay doctors to prescribe the more expensive version of things whenever possible.
Example from my own life: I have type 2 diabetes and one of the medications I take is called Jardiance. We lost our insurance recently and had to pay out of pocket, and that's when we discovered that Jardiance costs $600 per month's supply. I called the doctor. They changed it to the "old version" of the same thing: Glipizide was the name of it I think. That costs us $15 per months supply and fulfills the same function.
Pharmaceutical companies and doctors offices have been one of the most profitable industries for many years now. It's a lot like NATO and our other military alliances. When it comes to medical research, the American people overwhelmingly foot the bill and it's not right. If a bottle of pills costs $60 in Canada, it should cost $60 in the USA. If the price has to be raised in Canada, the EU and everywhere else to get the prices in the USA to look more like the rest of the world, well then do that.
Hospitals and drug makers find ways to nickle and dime you to death and it needs to stop. It's not the job of the American people to foot the bill for saving the world. Long past time for Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan and the rest of the 1st world to pay their fair share.
I have multiple medications that I have to take that cost more than $300 for 30 pills. That's ridiculous. No bottle of pills should ever cost more than a car payment. It sure as hell doesn't cost that much for the Pharmaceutical company to make the 30 pills, R&D included. Not even close. And they pay doctors to prescribe the more expensive version of things whenever possible.
Example from my own life: I have type 2 diabetes and one of the medications I take is called Jardiance. We lost our insurance recently and had to pay out of pocket, and that's when we discovered that Jardiance costs $600 per month's supply. I called the doctor. They changed it to the "old version" of the same thing: Glipizide was the name of it I think. That costs us $15 per months supply and fulfills the same function.
Pharmaceutical companies and doctors offices have been one of the most profitable industries for many years now. It's a lot like NATO and our other military alliances. When it comes to medical research, the American people overwhelmingly foot the bill and it's not right. If a bottle of pills costs $60 in Canada, it should cost $60 in the USA. If the price has to be raised in Canada, the EU and everywhere else to get the prices in the USA to look more like the rest of the world, well then do that.
Hospitals and drug makers find ways to nickle and dime you to death and it needs to stop. It's not the job of the American people to foot the bill for saving the world. Long past time for Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan and the rest of the 1st world to pay their fair share.
That's called capitalism. It's the American way. That's why universal socialism healthcare is the best.
I have multiple medications that I have to take that cost more than $300 for 30 pills. That's ridiculous. No bottle of pills should ever cost more than a car payment. It sure as hell doesn't cost that much for the Pharmaceutical company to make the 30 pills, R&D included. Not even close. And they pay doctors to prescribe the more expensive version of things whenever possible.
Example from my own life: I have type 2 diabetes and one of the medications I take is called Jardiance. We lost our insurance recently and had to pay out of pocket, and that's when we discovered that Jardiance costs $600 per month's supply. I called the doctor. They changed it to the "old version" of the same thing: Glipizide was the name of it I think. That costs us $15 per months supply and fulfills the same function.
Pharmaceutical companies and doctors offices have been one of the most profitable industries for many years now. It's a lot like NATO and our other military alliances. When it comes to medical research, the American people overwhelmingly foot the bill and it's not right. If a bottle of pills costs $60 in Canada, it should cost $60 in the USA. If the price has to be raised in Canada, the EU and everywhere else to get the prices in the USA to look more like the rest of the world, well then do that.
Hospitals and drug makers find ways to nickle and dime you to death and it needs to stop. It's not the job of the American people to foot the bill for saving the world. Long past time for Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan and the rest of the 1st world to pay their fair share.
FYI
Jardiance and Glipizide are not the same drug. In fact they really aren't even similar. Jardiance works by inhibiting the re-uptake of glucose in the kidney. Glipizide is an old fashioned sulfonylurea. Those drugs help your pancreas to produce and secret natural insulin.
It's not as if anyone expected research into treatments and cures to STOP because of hydroxychloroquine, and the only "debate" came from people suddenly trying to call it a dangerous drug (it's not) and ban mention of it online and in the media.
If you don't think that's weird then you're weird.
Immunosuppressants help when used early before an immune system goes into overdrive and kills the patient.
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