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Old 08-07-2020, 12:46 PM
 
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What are doing telling candidates they cant say God?
Trump was not talking about religion. He was insinuating the radical left agenda was against God and the bible. Perhaps due to the left push to get religion (Christianity) our of school, ban the display of the ten commandments from government property, disallow the nativity displays during Christmas, and recently burning the bible. IDK.

Opposing candidates say a lot of stuff. Are you now the self appointed campaign speech censor?
All constitutionally sound principles.

Thank you for demonstrating how the right uses religion as a weapon to attempt to circumvent the Constitution and remake it to cater to their own personal religious beliefs. This is a perfect illustration of the hypocrisy of the pretend Christian right. They want a theocracy, not a Constitutional democracy, because in the latter their views are not the law of the land.

Trump is just a really stupid useful tool for the pretend Christian right. Totally clueless. Kind of like standing in front of a church holding a book he never opened in his life, feigning piety. What a joke they all are.

 
Old 08-07-2020, 12:50 PM
 
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your Thread title is a lie.


NOTHING in Trump's comment is anti-Catholic. period. that is a lie. you need to stop saying things that are blatantly objectively false.
 
Old 08-07-2020, 01:06 PM
 
Location: NY
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Can you honestly can look at the man in the Oval Office right now and say with a straight face that he is a man of faith? Evangelicals masquerade as followers of Jesus Christ yet they support a man whose entire life is one great big advertisement of how not to live your life if you are a Christian.

If pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of pretend Christians is troubling to you, maybe you should think about why that might be.
No, I don't think of Trump as a man of faith. I see him as an unqualified, troll-ish outsider who, due to our broken society and broken political system, ended up as president. And ever since that unfortunate day, the ruling class has engaged in a scorched earth policy to unseat him.

But this attitude is ridiculous: that evangelicals are hypocrites for backing Trump. He gave them things they wanted. Hillary wasn't going to do that. We only get two choices. Both sucked. They chose the one that sucked less. That's what we all do.

Most evangelicals I know don't think Trump is religious, or righteous. They think he is a nominally religious person who will protect their rights as Christians. That's not an unreasonable stance, except people who love to hate evangelicals love to bring it up like some kind of smoking gun. As if Franklin Graham is supposed to glue a scarlet letter A to Trump's chest or something.
 
Old 08-07-2020, 01:10 PM
 
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But I bet you are okay with the Demonic party's anti-Christian, anti-Jew plank in their platform.
 
Old 08-07-2020, 01:10 PM
 
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No, I don't think of Trump as a man of faith. I see him as an unqualified, troll-ish outsider who, due to our broken society and broken political system, ended up as president. And ever since that unfortunate day, the ruling class has engaged in a scorched earth policy to unseat him.

But this attitude is ridiculous: that evangelicals are hypocrites for backing Trump. He gave them things they wanted. Hillary wasn't going to do that. We only get two choices. Both sucked. They chose the one that sucked less. That's what we all do.

Most evangelicals I know don't think Trump is religious, or righteous. They think he is a non-religious person who will protect their rights as Christians. That's not an unreasonable stance, except people who love to hate evangelicals love to bring it up like some kind of smoking gun. As if Franklin Graham is supposed to glue a scarlet letter A to Trump's chest or something.
So basically what you are saying is that these pretend Christians will champion a man who embodies everything they preach against, week after week, year after year, decade after decade from their pulpits as long as such a man will give them what they want?

And you don't see anything wrong with that picture? What good is it to preach Christian values on the one hand, but chuck them all out the window when it isn't convenient to follow them on the other? That's the very definition of a pretend Christian.
 
Old 08-07-2020, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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No, I don't think of Trump as a man of faith. I see him as an unqualified, troll-ish outsider who, due to our broken society and broken political system, ended up as president. And ever since that unfortunate day, the ruling class has engaged in a scorched earth policy to unseat him.

But this attitude is ridiculous: that evangelicals are hypocrites for backing Trump. He gave them things they wanted. Hillary wasn't going to do that. We only get two choices. Both sucked. They chose the one that sucked less. That's what we all do.

Most evangelicals I know don't think Trump is religious, or righteous. They think he is a nominally religious person who will protect their rights as Christians. That's not an unreasonable stance, except people who love to hate evangelicals love to bring it up like some kind of smoking gun. As if Franklin Graham is supposed to glue a scarlet letter A to Trump's chest or something.
Bc if there's one thing Jesus believed in, it's that you should do whatever you can to use people in power to push a Christian agenda.
 
Old 08-07-2020, 01:12 PM
 
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Hmmm, who did you vote for in 2016?



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Old 08-07-2020, 01:26 PM
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So basically what you are saying is that these pretend Christians will champion a man who embodies everything they preach against, week after week, year after year, decade after decade from their pulpits as long as such a man will give them what they want?

And you don't see anything wrong with that picture? What good is it to preach Christian values on the one hand, but chuck them all out the window when it isn't convenient to follow them on the other? That's the very definition of a pretend Christian.
Cyrus.
 
Old 08-07-2020, 01:28 PM
bu2
 
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Can you honestly can look at the man in the Oval Office right now and say with a straight face that he is a man of faith? Evangelicals masquerade as followers of Jesus Christ yet they support a man whose entire life is one great big advertisement of how not to live your life if you are a Christian.

If pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of pretend Christians is troubling to you, maybe you should think about why that might be.
You on the left don't seem to understand that politics is not a religion to evangelicals as it is to many of you on the left.

No evangelicals are appointing Trump as a Pope or even a minister.
 
Old 08-07-2020, 01:29 PM
 
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Trump didn't attack Catholics or Joe's Catholicism. That's a reach.

The actual anti-Catholic bigotry is from the deafening silence as Catholic churches and statues are burned. Has Biden made any comments about that?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...limate-of-anti

Will any reporters put him on the spot and ask him to condemn anti-Catholic hate crimes? I doubt it.
Yep. Biden isn't really Catholic, anyway. He's pro-abortion.
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