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Old 08-16-2020, 07:33 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Fix to transform it into a lie ?
Go back to the days of the Mandate. Who supplied the Muslims yet at the same time blocked the Jews from being armed?

 
Old 08-16-2020, 07:42 AM
 
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Go back to the days of the Mandate. Who supplied the Muslims yet at the same time blocked the Jews from being armed?
If anyone had supplied Palestinians anything, Israel wouldn't be here. And for that matter, who armed the Jewish terror groups Irgun, the Lehi, the Haganah and the Palmac ?
 
Old 08-16-2020, 10:11 AM
 
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THIS IS A PEACE AGREEMENT !!!

The president, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and Deputy Supreme Commander of the United Arab Emirates Sheikh Mohammed Bin Zayed released a joint statement Thursday, after the three spoke “and agreed to the full normalization of relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.” The statement said that the “diplomatic breakthrough” was at “the request of President Trump,” and that Israel will “suspend declaring sovereignty over areas outlined in the President’s Vision for Peace and focus its efforts now on expanding ties with other countries in the Arab and Muslim world.”
It's definitely an historic diplomatic breakthrough but not a peace agreement.


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I guess Biden's a Trump sycophant:

“Today, Israel and the United Arab Emirates have taken a historic step to bridge the deep divides of the Middle East. The UAE’s offer to publicly recognize the State of Israel is a welcome, brave, and badly-needed act of statesmanship. And it is a critical recognition that Israel is a vibrant, integral part of the Middle East that is here to stay. Israel can and will be a valued strategic and economic partner to all who welcome it,” Biden said in a statement.


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ts-of-multiple

He couldn't bring himself to credit Trump, but at least doesn't downplay the importance of this agreement.
I don't think that Mr. Trump should take full credit for this as secret ties between Israel and the UAE started before he became the American president.

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Yes it does for both Trump and Netanyahu and only a temporary halt to Israel's West Bank acquisitions.
Definitely not a peace agreement as Israel hasn't made a full commitment to what will happened to the West Bank and Gaza and the Palestinian Arabs haven't been involved and aren't happy about the Israel-UAE agreement.

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If anyone had supplied Palestinians anything, Israel wouldn't be here. And for that matter, who armed the Jewish terror groups Irgun, the Lehi, the Haganah and the Palmac ?
The Palestinian Arabs had the backing and full support of all the Arab countries neighboring Israel in 1948. Things have changed since then!
 
Old 08-16-2020, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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IDefinitely not a peace agreement as Israel hasn't made a full commitment to what will happened to the West Bank and Gaza and the Palestinian Arabs haven't been involved and aren't happy about the Israel-UAE agreement.
(1) Why should the Palestinians have anything to do with an agreement between Israel and the UAE? This doesn't concern them. The West Bank and the Gaza Strip are issues to be worked out between Israel and the Palestinians; the UAE has nothing to do with it.

(2) Of course the Palestinians aren't happy. They're never happy with anything. They bring their troubles upon themselves and then blame everyone else.
 
Old 08-16-2020, 11:32 AM
 
Location: The 719
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If anyone had supplied Palestinians anything, Israel wouldn't be here.
That's what Hitler thought.

Benjamin Netanyahu, the brother of Yonatan Netanyahu, the soldier killed rescuing Israeli passengers from a hijacked Air France plane by coward terrorists Liberation of Palestine Scum, commends President Donald J. Trump and the Crown Prince, "Peace is a good thing", and this "Unites two of the most advanced economies in the world, Israel and UAE."

Downplay this all you want lefties.

"Good for Peace, good for Security, good for Prosperity."

democrats probably hate that stuff, especially after the act they've been pulling this year, 2020, especially after their Russia Russia Russia Mueller-time Hoax was destroyed.

Benjamin Netanyahu has been talking to Arab leaders, and is looking to add to this meeting.

"Arab Countries are coming to see they cannot be held hostage by the palestinians any further."

Let's get on with exchanging things like the "Corona Vaccine development, infrastructure, energy, ..."

"If you give the Palestinians a veto on any kind of peace between Israel and the Arab world, we're never going to have peace with the Arab world, the Palestinians are refusing to have any kind of realistic settlement, President Trump's Peace Plan is the only one that has been put forth for many many decades, but the palestinians aren't coming around, so "

Have a break through with the Palestinians and then the Arab World? "I think it's the other way around..."

Joining forces is a very good thing. "Peace through Peace... nobody wants to make peace with a weak country. Everybody wants to make peace with a strong country."

Oh, but we need to assume failure and inevitability here, don't we? This is why so many folks hate Trump and cannot accept his style. He just punches through the status quo and goes in and fixes things.

This is a huge threat to Victimhood and Living on the Dole, the democrats' biggest exports.

Now back to Iran, Russia and China...

The UN's decision is anti Israel and anti U.S. once again. What has Iran done to be rewarded with lifting the renewal of the arms embargo? Attacking Saudi Arabia, Iraq, the U.S. through Syria and Lebanon, Africa.



Happy Voting!

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Old 08-16-2020, 11:48 AM
 
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It's definitely an historic diplomatic breakthrough but not a peace agreement.

I don't think that Mr. Trump should take full credit for this as secret ties between Israel and the UAE started before he became the American president.

Definitely not a peace agreement as Israel hasn't made a full commitment to what will happened to the West Bank and Gaza and the Palestinian Arabs haven't been involved and aren't happy about the Israel-UAE agreement.

The Palestinian Arabs had the backing and full support of all the Arab countries neighboring Israel in 1948. Things have changed since then!
i never gave Trump full credit. I give most credit to the UAE for having the guts to sign an agreement with Israel.

Biden's a politician so not mentioning Trump is understandable. I look at it as UAE didn't go public with a formal agreement until now. Trump's prez now. If credit goes to any U.S. prez, Trump's the one who should get it.

As for the palestinian leadership, they won't be happy until there's no Israel in land they consider palestine.
 
Old 08-16-2020, 12:55 PM
 
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The UN's decision is anti Israel and anti U.S. once again. What has Iran done to be rewarded with lifting the renewal of the arms embargo? Attacking Saudi Arabia, Iraq, the U.S. through Syria and Lebanon, Africa.
Any Anti Israel, Anti US decision is pro humanity. Both Israel and US are criminal states that should be put under heavy sanctions and restrictions. Anything Which is Anti US and Anti Israel is 100% pro humanity.

Why should Iran have to prove anything to be able to have the means to defend itself ?

Gaddafi gave up it's nuclear program in 2000, we all know how well it ended for him and his state.
 
Old 08-16-2020, 04:08 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I don't defend the Palestinians but the point is you can't have a peace treaty if you don't include everyone.

Also, you can't say it includes no annexation when Israel says annexation is still on.

THAT is the problem with this peace treaty It isn't clear it does what people think it does.
That means anyone can play the spoiler? My vote is for the spoiler to be terminated with extreme prejudice.
 
Old 08-16-2020, 04:18 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Any Anti Israel, Anti US decision is pro humanity. Both Israel and US are criminal states that should be put under heavy sanctions and restrictions. Anything Which is Anti US and Anti Israel is 100% pro humanity.

Why should Iran have to prove anything to be able to have the means to defend itself ?

Gaddafi gave up it's nuclear program in 2000, we all know how well it ended for him and his state.
You must hate civilization. You would have loved the Barbarian conquest of Rome, the Dark Ages, smallpox and the bubonic plague.
 
Old 08-16-2020, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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(1) Why should the Palestinians have anything to do with an agreement between Israel and the UAE? This doesn't concern them. The West Bank and the Gaza Strip are issues to be worked out between Israel and the Palestinians; the UAE has nothing to do with it.

(2) Of course the Palestinians aren't happy. They're never happy with anything. They bring their troubles upon themselves and then blame everyone else.
They should be happy, because this deal got Israel to stop settling the occupied territories, so it does concern them.

Why do you say they are not happy?
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