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Any term used to demean a group of ppl based on ethnicity is racist. No one of any sort of intelligence would ever use the term Kung Flu over covid19. It's intent is to sow hatred towards asians in this country and divides us as a society. You are either willfully obtuse or incredibly ignorant, if you think "Kung flu" is not or will not be used in a derogatory fashion towards asians. I'm speechless.
Don't know a single asian? Gee, i wonder why you think the way you do. Sir, go find some asian americans, start a conversation with them on "kung flu," and see how they react. This could be in person or online. The challenge is not null and void, simply because you don't know any asians. Gain some perspective on racial diversity. You sorely need it.
Why is it so terrible to demean people of a different race. But ok to demean someone 100 times more if the same race?
Like what the Libs have done to Trump every step of the way.
Any term used to demean a group of ppl based on ethnicity is racist. No one of any sort of intelligence would ever use the term Kung Flu over covid19. It's intent is to sow hatred towards asians in this country and divides us as a society. You are either willfully obtuse or incredibly ignorant, if you think "Kung flu" is not or will not be used in a derogatory fashion towards asians. I'm speechless.
Don't know a single asian? Gee, i wonder why you think the way you do. Sir, go find some asian americans, start a conversation with them on "kung flu," and see how they react. This could be in person or online. The challenge is not null and void, simply because you don't know any asians. Gain some perspective on racial diversity. You sorely need it.
" It's intent is to", another who thinks they are a genius and KNOW what others "intents" are.
Must be nice to be a mind reader! Do you perform in the travel 1 tent circuses?
Any term used to demean a group of ppl based on ethnicity is racist. No one of any sort of intelligence would ever use the term Kung Flu over covid19. It's intent is to sow hatred towards asians in this country and divides us as a society. You are either willfully obtuse or incredibly ignorant, if you think "Kung flu" is not or will not be used in a derogatory fashion towards asians. I'm speechless.
Don't know a single asian? Gee, i wonder why you think the way you do. Sir, go find some asian americans, start a conversation with them on "kung flu," and see how they react. This could be in person or online. The challenge is not null and void, simply because you don't know any asians. Gain some perspective on racial diversity. You sorely need it.
The term wasn't intended to demean China. It was just a fact that the virus "originated" in China. How much longer are you going to go on with this and what part of that don't you get? How in the world was it sowing hatred against China? You're really off the wall here.
No, I don't know a single Asian among my circle of friends. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't befriend one if I knew one. I'm suppose to roam the streets looking for one? In my neck of the woods there are hardly any of them living where I live. WTH does racial diversity have to do with what I just said? You sorely need to stop with your stupid nonsense implying that I don't like Asians. I'm done with you. Welcome to my ignore list.
Maggie Haberman wrote in April of 2011 that the birther issue had largely died down in the media, but picked up steam again when Donald Trump began pushing it.
^^^^^ And some people felt that that push was racist.
"Some people" think everything a white person does is racist.
I take it that you are an all or nothing type of guy. I personally see no correlation between birtherism and racism, but if that's how you perceive that, its your right to do so. I have no opinion on this other than if there is reason to believe, than the question should be asked. We live in a society that has stopped asking questions and that is not a good thing. That said, the second anyone questions something, they are automatically the bad guy. I don't get it.
But a number of academics who have written papers on the subject do see a correlation.
I mentioned one of the papers earlier in this thread, and that paper has many footnotes and many embedded links to other papers.
Put you in a room with any of those authors and you wouldn't be able to argue your way out of a proverbial paper bag on this.
Additionally, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I've never seen anyone on CD come up with a supposedly devoid of racism reason for birtherism that we CD posters who understand that it is racist/pandering to racists haven't been able to knock down/invalidate.
ETA: I don't know if what I mentioned above that I mentioned earlier in this thread is still there. I just noticed that over 80 pages (at the 10 per page setting) of this thread have just been deleted.
"Some people" think everything a white person does is racist.
It was definitely racist or intentional pandering to racist voters on Trump's part.
He kept on promoting it in 2011.....even though the conservative blogger who initially asked for Obama's birth certificate said he was satisfied, Obama had already released what the department of health in Hawaii had initially given him...and then after that released his long form birth certificate, and the head of the head of the health department in Hawaii had already confirmed his birth in 2008, and again in 2009.
The term wasn't intended to demean China. It was just a fact that the virus "originated" in China. How much longer are you going to go on with this and what part of that don't you get? How in the world was it sowing hatred against China? You're really off the wall here.
No, I don't know a single Asian among my circle of friends. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't befriend one if I knew one. I'm suppose to roam the streets looking for one? In my neck of the woods there are hardly any of them living where I live. WTH does racial diversity have to do with what I just said? You sorely need to stop with your stupid nonsense implying that I don't like Asians. I'm done with you. Welcome to my ignore list.
Yeah, and you can make the exact same argument for calling it the Ching Chong Virus. Neither that nor kung flu has has anything, at all, to do with describing the origins of covid. The words are purely meant to make fun of and disparage a group of ppl based on ethnicity. It's really that simple.
I never once said it was sowing hatred against China, although i'm sure there was some intent there. Please stop putting words in my mouth.
This is your problem. You're so insulated in your own bubble, based on your experiences and environment you have no concept of racism towards other cultures. Are you ok with the gesture of making squinty eyes with your fingers, as a simple means of describing an asian person? Because that is the logic you are using.
Good lord, get a clue already.
I never thought of you as being so rabidly anti-Trump. Thus, it's a surprise to see you going full on ballistic in this thread.
My approach is calm.
You're assigning emotion to it because you're projecting your own emotional reaction onto me, your own emotional reaction likely emanating from not liking what I'm saying and not being able to refute what I'm saying
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Just one question---Have you ever had a less than perfect thought when it comes to those of another race, religion or ethnicity? Have you ever made a less than flattering remark about another race, religion or ethnicity in your life? If you say you never had an impure thought or made a less than flattering remark, then either you are being dishonest or you are a candidate for sainthood.
^^^^^ Irrelevant because I have never asked to be and will never ask to be elected President.
More is expected from a President than from Joe Sixpack......Patience, calm under extreme pressure, weighing what is fair, understanding leadership, demonstrating leadership, statesmanship, etc., the ability to inspire, intellect at or above a certain level, a wide perspective or at least the ability to digest a wider perspective communicated by other...in short all things that are Presidential behavior.
To say that any person doing the critiquing (who isn't running for President) would have to personally have all of those qualities in order to demand them in a President, and not be a hypocrite for demanding them in a President, is ludicrous.
Again a President or Presidential candidate should be compared to what will help re the job/aka what is Presidential, not be compared to you/me/'Joe Sixpack'.
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All that said, no one ever called Trump a "racist" until he decided to run for president. In fact, many black people who have met him and befriended him have said he isn't "racist". One would think that if he is "racist", all those who have vouched for him would not want to be associated with him.
The bolded is not true....as a Google search would reveal to you.
He made comments before Congress about Native Americans owning casinos in CT..comments that he had to walk back.
I mentioned earlier in this thread (don't know if it is still there with the 800+ post deletion within the thread) that he made a comment about hating black people counting his (casino) money in the 90s. He actually was fined for pulling those black employees, appealed the fine, and lost the appeal.
and there are many other examples....just do a Google or DuckDuckGo search.
You're assigning emotion to it because you're projecting your own emotional reaction onto me, your own emotional reaction likely emanating from not liking what I'm saying and not being able to refute what I'm saying
^^^^^ Irrelevant because I have never asked to be and will never ask to be elected President.
More is expected from a President than from Joe Sixpack......Patience, calm under extreme pressure, weighing what is fair, understanding leadership, demonstrating leadership, statesmanship, etc., the ability to inspire, intellect at or above a certain level, a wide perspective or at least the ability to digest a wider perspective communicated by other...in short all things that are Presidential behavior.
To say that any person doing the critiquing (who isn't running for President) would have to personally have all of those qualities in order to demand them in a President, and not be a hypocrite for demanding them in a President, is ludicrous.
Again a President or Presidential candidate should be compared to what will help re the job/aka what is Presidential, not be compared to you/me/'Joe Sixpack'.
The bolded is not true....as a Google search would reveal to you.
He made comments before Congress about Native Americans owning casinos in CT..comments that he had to walk back.
I mentioned earlier in this thread (don't know if it is still there with the 800+ post deletion within the thread) that he made a comment about hating black people counting his (casino) money in the 90s. He actually was fined for pulling those black employees, appealed the fine, and lost the appeal.
and there are many other examples....just do a Google or DuckDuckGo search.
So...you won't answer the question posed to you. It is relevant. You are accusing someone of being a "racist" yet you refuse to say if you've ever had an impure thought about any race, religion or ethnicity or if you've ever said something disparaging regarding a race, religion or ethnicity. I gather from your non-answer that you have had such thoughts and have said something less than flattering. Just admit it.
You're also saying that you hold high standards for someone running for president but give a pass to others.
You truly think that everybody who is running for president should be a candidate for sainthood and be pure as the driven snow. Well...good luck with that one. You can spend your days like Diogenes searching this country with your lamp in hand trying to find such a person. If you have nothing better to do, then go for it. When you've completed your journey, come back to C-D and write about it.
Trump counts many black people as his friends. Do you seriously think that they would want to be friends with a white person who is a racist? Do you think any white person would want to befriend a black person who is racist?
I have come across racists in my life. Some of them don't reveal themselves as such for quite sometime. When it does come out, I disassociate myself from them. Don't you think if any black person who befriended Trump would no longer friend him if they found him to be racist? If you think they would continue to befriend them, then you insult them with your remarks
BTW, I'm not assigning my emotions to you by pointing out that only recently have you been so rabidly anti-Trump. I've read your posts. You don't like Trump but you weren't like those who go at it hard. Why now?
Even those who aren't racists are still human. They, too, have had impure thoughts or also have uttered something unflattering in the heat of the moment. It might have been after an experience seeing someone from a certain group (no matter how you are grouping people) behaving badly. In calmer times, they realize that not everybody from that group behaves that way. A true racist will hate everybody of a certain race and refuse to interact with any of them. A bigot will refuse to talk to anyone who isn't of the same religious faith or ethnicity. Racists and bigots will go so far as disowning their own child for marrying outside the group.
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