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View Poll Results: Vote For The Outcome Of The Murder Trial Of Kyle Rittenhouse
Guilty - Kyle Rittenhouse murdered those young protesters 72 19.78%
Not Guilty - Kyle Rittenhouse acted in self-defense 292 80.22%
Voters: 364. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-17-2021, 02:08 PM
 
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The only way to be 100% sure never end up like Rittenhouse is don't put yourself in a position to shoot someone in self defense.

Which is impossible to do.

 
Old 11-17-2021, 02:11 PM
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Which is impossible to do.
It’s impossible to keep yourself completely safe but not impossible to avoid extremely dangerous situations where you don’t feel safe without carrying an AR15. Where you are basically going for an adventure.
 
Old 11-17-2021, 02:12 PM
 
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It’s impossible to keep yourself completely safe but not impossible to avoid extremely dangerous situations where you don’t feel safe without carrying an AR15. Where you are basically going for an adventure.
Thankfully, Kyle Rittenhouse's choice to take a rifle in public is not what is on trial here. Some on this thread do speak as if it were.
 
Old 11-17-2021, 02:13 PM
 
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It’s impossible to keep yourself completely safe but not impossible to avoid extremely dangerous situations where you don’t feel safe without carrying an AR15. Where you are basically going for an adventure.
If someone is attacking you will always feel unsafe.

Or do you think everyone should feel safe while being attacked and just take the beating like a good little citizen?
 
Old 11-17-2021, 02:14 PM
 
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Thankfully, Kyle Rittenhouse's choice to take a rifle in public is not what is on trial here. Some on this thread do speak as if it were.
And after a ton of posts that point this out still pretend as if that is what's on trial.

It's like they want to intentionally promote a lie.
 
Old 11-17-2021, 02:16 PM
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Thankfully, Kyle Rittenhouse's choice to take a rifle in public is not what is on trial here. Some on this thread do speak as if it were.
He’s not on trial for that but it’s certainly up for discussion. And when the question arises about what you could do to protect yourself in a case where it’s not clear you’re entitled to use self defense in a court trial for murder (which is the case here) the question arises as to whether he was so reckless he can’t claim
Self defense.

The jury asked for written copies for each member of the jury instructions for a finding of self defense, so this exact issue may be the sticking point.
 
Old 11-17-2021, 02:20 PM
 
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And after a ton of posts that point this out still pretend as if that is what's on trial.

It's like they want to intentionally promote a lie.
They project their subjective views and opinions on the facts.

I too have views and opinions. And however strongly I support the Second Amendment, I would tell a child of mine at 17 not to go to a city invaded by rioters, looters, arsonists, and all sorts of anarchists, leftists criminals, and other such depraved elements because these people don't have much of a moral fiber.

But if my 17-year-old child did it behind my back and ended up in the exact same situation as Kyle, in the same city, I'd be damn proud if my child shot and killed in self-defense exactly as Kyle did.

What is on trial is whether Kyle committed murder (which he didn't; the video footage which we who pay attention saw days after the incident made it clear).

Leftists have written and spoken for more than 1 year as if Kyle walked up to a crowd of peaceful protesters, deliberately aimed to kill, and fired at people who were peacefully and quietly minding their business.

They don't know the truth - and some don't want to.
 
Old 11-17-2021, 02:23 PM
 
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He’s not on trial for that but it’s certainly up for discussion. And when the question arises about what you could do to protect yourself in a case where it’s not clear you’re entitled to use self defense in a court trial for murder (which is the case here) the question arises as to whether he was so reckless he can’t claim
Self defense.
Not in court, and if you want to discuss it, do so, but it has zero bearing on the facts of the case.

The facts state he wasn't reckless. He was RUNNING AWAY towards police, leftists chased after him, knocked him down, assaulted him with a skateboard, kicked his had, and pulled a firearm at him and pointed it at him BEFORE he fired at the pistol-wearing criminal.

What you want to be true is irrelevant to the facts of this case as presented during this trial.

If you've watched the video, and if you think Kyle was reckless, then I question your capacity to think rationally.
 
Old 11-17-2021, 02:25 PM
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Not in court, and if you want to discuss it, do so, but it has zero bearing on the facts of the case.

The facts state he wasn't reckless. He was RUNNING AWAY towards police, leftists chased after him, knocked him down, assaulted him with a skateboard, kicked his had, and pulled a firearm at him and pointed it at him BEFORE he fired at the pistol-wearing criminal.

What you want to be true is irrelevant to the facts of this case as presented during this trial.

If you've watched the video, and if you think Kyle was reckless, then I question your capacity to think rationally.
His decision to go into that riot at all, much less caring an AR15 is the very definition of reckless. Absolutely stupid.
 
Old 11-17-2021, 02:26 PM
 
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His decision to go into that riot at all, much less caring an AR15 is the very definition of reckless. Absolutely stupid.
I wish your conviction over Kyle's lawful actions matched your condemnation of looters and rioters.
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