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Old 09-06-2020, 08:41 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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https://www.nola.com/news/article_93...b10ac5da1.html

This article mentions two wedding photographers who now decline to work plantation weddings. The first in particular comes across as a liberal snowflake talking about people getting married on a plantation are participating in "violence". And yes plantation weddings are a big thing here, the only reason more people don't do them is because of the cost. And no, plantations were not like concentration camps. The planter class was like the old American aristocracy, so a better comparison would be to a royal palace or a castle. People can visit a castle or palace without obsessing over how the peasants were mistreated.

Seems like if you are a liberal, you believe its okay for them to refuse these weddings out of their personal beliefs, but a Christian photographer shouldn't be allowed to refuse working a gay wedding?
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Old 09-06-2020, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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As a gay photographer, I will gladly shoot your plantation wedding.
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Old 09-06-2020, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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In 2015, wedding videographer Mary Winchell had an incident that led her to stop working at plantation receptions. Her now-husband, who is Black, was helping shoot video at a reception when a groomsman told him, “We don’t like your kind around here,” she said. When they reported it to the bride and groom, she said they laughed.
Not sure what encountering racist people at a wedding has to do with plantations. The groomsman surely did not live at the plantation, so "around here" would have been wherever the reception was being held.

People should hold their weddings wherever they choose and are legally allowed to be, and people who don't approve of their choices should ****.
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Old 09-06-2020, 09:16 PM
 
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Seems like if you are a liberal, you believe its okay for them to refuse these weddings out of their personal beliefs, but a Christian photographer shouldn't be allowed to refuse working a gay wedding?
I fear that a lot of Americans do demonstrate the lack of education and ignorance portrayed in the statement above. Not all liberals or conservatives have the same view on this.

I'm a conservative and I couldn't care less if you refuse to shoot at a plantation or shoot a gay wedding. I couldn't care less if you are all for it, either.

I'm sure there's liberal Trump followers that have alternative views. You can't use such a broad paintbrush.

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Old 09-06-2020, 11:36 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Not sure what encountering racist people at a wedding has to do with plantations. The groomsman surely did not live at the plantation, so "around here" would have been wherever the reception was being held.

People should hold their weddings wherever they choose and are legally allowed to be, and people who don't approve of their choices should ****.
I agree! And something about that story itself sounds questionable. How come there are no other witnesses to back up the fact that this encounter even happened. I'm from Louisiana and I really do not picture any white person just totally unprovoked going to a black man working at an event and telling him he wasn't welcome unless there was something other than his race, but even so, like if he was gay and black or Muslim, that would still be weird. Even the VERY small handful of white people I know who are actually racist (all of them over 70 years old) would not go to a random black person and act like this.

And this has nothing to do with the plantation setting. There are mixed couples, and Asian and Hispanic couples who get married at Louisiana plantations all the time. Nobody is denying that slavery happened and as a country and world we've moved on from that. But there's nothing wrong with celebrating the grandeur and gentility of the plantation life and history.
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Old 09-07-2020, 06:07 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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https://www.nola.com/news/article_93...b10ac5da1.html

This article mentions two wedding photographers who now decline to work plantation weddings. The first in particular comes across as a liberal snowflake talking about people getting married on a plantation are participating in "violence". And yes plantation weddings are a big thing here, the only reason more people don't do them is because of the cost. And no, plantations were not like concentration camps. The planter class was like the old American aristocracy, so a better comparison would be to a royal palace or a castle. People can visit a castle or palace without obsessing over how the peasants were mistreated.

Seems like if you are a liberal, you believe its okay for them to refuse these weddings out of their personal beliefs, but a Christian photographer shouldn't be allowed to refuse working a gay wedding?

Are "plantations" suddenly a protected class?

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Old 09-07-2020, 06:30 AM
 
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https://www.nola.com/news/article_93...b10ac5da1.html

This article mentions two wedding photographers who now decline to work plantation weddings. The first in particular comes across as a liberal snowflake talking about people getting married on a plantation are participating in "violence". And yes plantation weddings are a big thing here, the only reason more people don't do them is because of the cost. And no, plantations were not like concentration camps. The planter class was like the old American aristocracy, so a better comparison would be to a royal palace or a castle. People can visit a castle or palace without obsessing over how the peasants were mistreated.

Seems like if you are a liberal, you believe its okay for them to refuse these weddings out of their personal beliefs, but a Christian photographer shouldn't be allowed to refuse working a gay wedding?
So what!

Just get different photographers. Every person in business should be able to choose the type of work they want to do .

I'm sure there are plenty of other photographers that would have no problem with it.
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Old 09-07-2020, 07:45 AM
 
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https://www.nola.com/news/article_93...b10ac5da1.html

This article mentions two wedding photographers who now decline to work plantation weddings. The first in particular comes across as a liberal snowflake talking about people getting married on a plantation are participating in "violence". And yes plantation weddings are a big thing here, the only reason more people don't do them is because of the cost. And no, plantations were not like concentration camps. The planter class was like the old American aristocracy, so a better comparison would be to a royal palace or a castle. People can visit a castle or palace without obsessing over how the peasants were mistreated.

Seems like if you are a liberal, you believe its okay for them to refuse these weddings out of their personal beliefs, but a Christian photographer shouldn't be allowed to refuse working a gay wedding?
I wonder how they feel about bakers not baking cakes for gay weddings?
Freedom of association (with or without of an individuals own choosing) is a right we are all born with. And no, being in a business doesnt change that.
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Old 09-07-2020, 08:17 AM
 
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I am very conservative and very anti-slavery (who thinks it was a good idea?!) and I can't help but think of it when I've visited places like Charleston, SC and New Orleans, LA whose grandeur can be at least partially attributed to it, so it does bother me and I find myself less and less drawn to those places as I get older.

However, to be fair, weddings are held at estates in the North where the famous Gilded Age Robber Barons resided, and people like the Astors, Vanderbilts, Hormels, et al were notorious for being slumlords and cruel employers who exploited poor people, particularly European immigrants and blacks, in many ways.

https://www.newportmansions.org/weddings

https://www.hormelhistorichome.org/hhh-history.html



So if one wants to have a wedding at a beautiful historic mansion, in order to single plantations out for being boycotted, shouldn't these photographers also look at the history of every historic mansion that is used as a wedding venue and consider whose human rights were violated to provide their beauty and opulence? I wonder if they would balk at photographing weddings at any of the Newport Mansions, for example? I am going to guess that they wouldn't care.
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Old 09-07-2020, 08:23 AM
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Not sure what encountering racist people at a wedding has to do with plantations. The groomsman surely did not live at the plantation, so "around here" would have been wherever the reception was being held.

People should hold their weddings wherever they choose and are legally allowed to be, and people who don't approve of their choices should ****.
Its their choice. There are plenty of other photographers. And bakers.
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