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Old 09-02-2020, 03:53 PM
 
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and another 80% of the deaths were people in their 70s and 80s and 90s



How are we in the middle of a pandemic when sick old people are dying? sick old people have been dying for 30 million years
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Old 09-02-2020, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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and another 80% of the deaths were people in their 70s and 80s and 90s
Oh, they just don't matter if they're over 70.

Okay. Point made.
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Old 09-02-2020, 04:57 PM
 
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My doc told me most patients who died from COVID, had diabetes in addition to organ problems like kidney and heart.
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Old 09-02-2020, 04:59 PM
 
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Oh, they just don't matter if they're over 70.

Okay. Point made.



uhh it's not a pandemic if 85 year olds die.


they're 85 years old, they're basically dying off old age. If it's not covid now, it's a cold next month


Shutting down the world over that is completely asinine
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:01 PM
 
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My doc told me most patients who died from COVID, had diabetes in addition to organ problems like kidney and heart.


and we have trampled and destroyed personal freedoms and our rights to save 80 year olds with diabetes and organ and kidney problems who have 1 leg in the grave already
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:10 PM
 
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https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cd...from-covid-19/

FACTCHECK
CDC Did Not ‘Admit Only 6%’ of Recorded Deaths from COVID-19
By Saranac Hale Spencer

September 2, 2020

a headline on Gateway Pundit, which announced: “This Week CDC Quietly Updated COVID-19 Numbers – Only 9,210 Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone – Rest Had Different Other Serious Illnesses.â€

The president retweeted a link to that, too, and the phrase “only 6%†trended on Twitter.

Several media outlets flipped the percentage and reported that 94% of COVID-19 deaths had “underlying medical conditions.â€

But the data on which all of this is based come from death certificates, which list any causes or conditions that contributed to a person’s death. In the case of COVID-19, the disease often causes other serious conditions, such as pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome. Those two conditions are among the ailments with the highest counts in the CDC’s comorbidity chart. Some long-term conditions that increase the risk for severe COVID-19, such as diabetes or hypertension, were also listed.

The underlying cause of death, however, is the condition that started the chain of events that led to a person’s death. In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, that disease is listed as the underlying cause of death, Jeff Lancashire, spokesman for the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, told FactCheck.org in an email.

As the epidemiologist and science writer Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz explained in a recent post, “it’s pretty rare that someone wouldn’t have at least one issue caused by coronavirus prior to their death, and all it means is that in 94% of cases people who had COVID-19 also developed other issues, or had other problems at the same time.â€

Meyerowitz-Katz notes that influenza and pneumonia are listed as the most common concurrent diseases, which isn’t surprising. “Similarly,†he writes, “respiratory failure, something that the coronavirus directly causes, is listed here as a ‘comorbidity’ that 55,000 people had.â€

So, it’s misleading to say that 94% of those who died with COVID-19 also had other ailments without explaining that the disease causes other serious illnesses. And it’s wrong to claim that only 6% of the recorded COVID-19 deaths were caused by the disease.
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:18 PM
 
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Around here the average age of covid deaths is 84. Normal life expectancy is 82.
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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uhh it's not a pandemic if 85 year olds die.


they're 85 years old, they're basically dying off old age. If it's not covid now, it's a cold next month


Shutting down the world over that is completely asinine
Pandemic definition, which has nothing to do with age:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pandemic

"occurring over a wide geographic area and affecting an exceptionally high proportion of the population"

Life expectancy, US:

https://www.google.com/search?q=life...hrome&ie=UTF-8

"By age 85, the article points out, the average remaining life expectancy for Americans is six years. An 85-year-old has a 75 percent chance of living another three years, but only a one in four chance of surviving for 10."

A "cold" is seldom fatal.

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Around here the average age of covid deaths is 84. Normal life expectancy is 82.
See above. If not for COVID-19 that 84 year old could expect to have lived several years longer.
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:23 PM
 
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The latest study from Iceland showed the covid case fatality rate is only 3 times worse than flu at 0.3%.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2026116

Last edited by mascoma; 09-02-2020 at 05:47 PM..
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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People die every day.
For most of the people who died from COVID, their days were already numbered.
Old people are a drain on our resources and should be left to die when it's their time.
Most of them were also diseased and therefore genetically inferior.
We as a society need to admit that some people are genetically inferior and that we need to sacrifice some lives to go back to normal.
We need to reopen the **** up.
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