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Old 10-01-2020, 02:05 AM
 
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That is not a fact. Only in the US was it first confirmed in Kansas, but a similar illness is now known to previously be known by medical records to been in China, among the Chinese labors transported etc. Read the link I posted.
Your article simply states that records of a similar illness in China was discovered by a historian (in 2014, nonetheless). It makes no mention of a confirmed case in China prior to the confirmed case in the US. The first confirmed case is in Kansas. That's not debatable. It is the reason why American virus or American flu is a better suited name according to berdee.
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Old 10-01-2020, 02:09 AM
 
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Your article simply states that records of a similar illness in China was discovered by a historian. It makes no mention of a confirmed case in China prior to the confirmed case in the US. The first confirmed case is in Kansas. That's not debatable. It is the reason why American virus or American flu is a better suited name according to berdee.
It was only reported in Kansas military barracks first. It was observed and recorded in China and other places months before but not reported. There wasn't the technology in 1918 to really "confirm" the virus strain as today. It was based on observations of the illness mostly. We know with more scientific fact that today's virus is from Wuhan and is the China virus.
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Old 10-01-2020, 02:12 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Anti-Asian Bias spikes due to use of "China Virus"


So YOU have finally figured out the reason why Chinese people occasionally get harassed?

Can you explain to us why you have concluded that "it's Trump's fault" because he calls it the "China Virus" In other words, because he keeps telling the truth about it?

And it's not because of the more usual reasons like, China is constantly taking advantage of American generosity, as well as the naive rolling over for China that the U.S. has done from 2008-2016?
Chinese individuals in the U.S. did nothing to create or spread the virus any more than any other American. But the truth should be told; the virus lept from animals to people in China and it has much to do with China's relatively primitive conditions, whether in the wet markets or the labs.
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Old 10-01-2020, 02:15 AM
 
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Your article simply states that records of a similar illness in China was discovered by a historian (in 2014, nonetheless). It makes no mention of a confirmed case in China prior to the confirmed case in the US. The first confirmed case is in Kansas. That's not debatable. It is the reason why American virus or American flu is a better suited name according to berdee.
Research actually shows evidence of cases of the Spanish Flu in France before the US (1914 vs 1918). The two debated origins are France and US with US being more agreed upon by scientists and historians.
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Old 10-01-2020, 02:17 AM
 
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Chinese individuals in the U.S. did nothing to create or spread the virus any more than any other American. But the truth should be told; the virus lept from animals to people in China and it has much to do with China's relatively primitive conditions, whether in the wet markets or the labs.
Well to be fair some of them knew and left China knowing about a flu illness spreading and a lockdown knowingly risk spreading the virus in the US and didn't let us know.
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Old 10-01-2020, 08:15 AM
 
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Complete failure on your part. Have you petitioned to rename the Spanish Flu to the American Flu? I didn't think so.
Why would I?

Once you can prove without a doubt that the first case was in Kansas in 1918, and not in some other country from 1915 onward, then by all means have the name changed. You better get cracking, there's a lot of research you need to go through.
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Old 10-01-2020, 08:16 AM
 
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Much nonsense.
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Old 10-01-2020, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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According to the study the bias towards Asians has trended in a decline between 2007 and 2020. So it is likely Trump calling it the China virus increasing the racism.
How much of the study did you read?
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Old 10-01-2020, 08:27 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Well to be fair some of them knew and left China knowing about a flu illness spreading and a lockdown knowingly risk spreading the virus in the US and didn't let us know.
you realize there are many American born Chinese who have never even been to China. Heck even speak Chinese. And NY, for example, most of their cases came in from European travel. Europeans went to china came back,..then came to US . China is, or was, a huge tourist destination for the world. The world visits China, then flies on back home. We are still having a problem with the Jewish communities here.

It was gonna get here no matter what.

And newsflash,..Asians have been lowkey fairgame for racism, even if not moreso from Blacks during this pandemic. But well before Trump uttered the words 'China PLague, or whatever'.
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Old 10-01-2020, 08:30 AM
 
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I wonder how Spaniards feel about the "Spanish Flu?"

I wonder how people from the West Nile area feel about "West Nile Virus?"

I wonder how people from the Ebola River area feel about "Ebola?"
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