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Old 10-09-2020, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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It will be listed as a diagnosis, as the hospital will get more in reimbursements even if asymptomatic.
Are you sure about that? The Medicare premium for COVID-19 is attached to the DRG for the overall hospitalization.
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Old 10-09-2020, 07:58 PM
 
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Actual deaths directly from Chinese WuFlu were less than 10,000. Most deaths were in New York and New Jersey.
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:10 PM
 
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Are you sure about that? The Medicare premium for COVID-19 is attached to the DRG for the overall hospitalization.
Just some clues:

A Covid 19 diagnosis could be in an asymptomatic patient.

https://www.hrsa.gov/coviduninsuredc...sked-questions

'Health care entities who have conducted COVID-19 testing of uninsured individuals, regardless of the result, or provided treatment to uninsured individuals with a COVID-19 diagnosis on or after February 4, 2020, can request claims reimbursement through the program electronically and will be reimbursed generally at Medicare rates, subject to available funding.'

https://medcitynews.com/2020/05/here...-act-payments/

'As part of those terms, hospitals must agree not to “balance bill” Covid-19 patients, meaning they cannot charge an out-of-network patient more than they would pay if they had been in-network.'
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Just some clues:

A Covid 19 diagnosis could be in an asymptomatic patient.

https://www.hrsa.gov/coviduninsuredc...sked-questions

'Health care entities who have conducted COVID-19 testing of uninsured individuals, regardless of the result, or provided treatment to uninsured individuals with a COVID-19 diagnosis on or after February 4, 2020, can request claims reimbursement through the program electronically and will be reimbursed generally at Medicare rates, subject to available funding.'

https://medcitynews.com/2020/05/here...-act-payments/

'As part of those terms, hospitals must agree not to “balance bill” Covid-19 patients, meaning they cannot charge an out-of-network patient more than they would pay if they had been in-network.'
I do not see how those apply to someone who is asymptomatic, apart for reimbursement for testing.

Otherwise, they need a COVID-19 diagnosis, symptomatic and requiring treatment, not just a positive test.
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:22 PM
 
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I do not see how those apply to someone who is asymptomatic, apart for reimbursement for testing.

Otherwise, they need a COVID-19 diagnosis, symptomatic and requiring treatment, not just a positive test.
These are uninsured patients, in for whatever. So this may be a way to help hospitals with getting reimbursed for whatever their treatment.

It might cost the hospitals more to care for even an asymptomatic Covid 19 patient.
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:25 PM
 
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Nobody is ever going to really know... They can assume this and that but it won't ever be known... It's been tainted by politics... Like man-made climate change... And it's not even real...
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Old 10-10-2020, 05:31 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Not WITH Covid? OF Covid? I know the are purposely distorting the numbers to make Trump look bad and to reimburse the hospitals at higher rates. Just saw a 29 year old who they previously said died of COVID actually did not. So how many have REALLY died of Covid? Anyone know?
There was also the issue of deliberately manufactured deaths. Governors Cuomo and Wolf among others introduced contagious Covid victims into nursing homes. I suspect the purpose was to manufacture some actual deaths for the statistics.
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Old 10-10-2020, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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Most people die with "contributing factors."

Very few of us "die of old age."

Very few....
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Old 10-10-2020, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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It really doesn't matter until we have an excess deaths number for the year. Why anybody would ask the question, when the "COVID only killed 10K people" that came out a month ago is beyond me.

I will add - the "Covid killed multiple members of my family" is amazing, since with 187MM households, only ~0.1% of them would see a single death. And to think so many people on CD have multiple family deaths - what are the odds? 0.1% is 1000-1. Is multiple people > 2,000-1?
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Old 10-10-2020, 05:46 PM
 
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It really doesn't matter until we have an excess deaths number for the year. Why anybody would ask the question, when the "COVID only killed 10K people" that came out a month ago is beyond me.

I will add - the "Covid killed multiple members of my family" is amazing, since with 187MM households, only ~0.1% of them would see a single death. And to think so many people on CD have multiple family deaths - what are the odds? 0.1% is 1000-1. Is multiple people > 2,000-1?
In my town and county about 1 in 1000 died of Covid 19 this year. So many not know anyone that died. I have one friend that died.
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