Robert E. Lee statue to be removed- The Taliban strikes again (Pennsylvania, New York)
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Always wondered why Robert E. Lee was let go. Anywhere else and he'd be hanged. At the time they must not have thought much of him to banish him. 150 years later and suddenly people have a epiphany.
I like context, yes. And in the actual, specific context of Civil War memorials, Lee was very, very exact:
"I think it wiser not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered."
Of course, the Daughters of the Confederacy and others of their ilk ignored that decent advice and did everything in their power to keep open the sores of war. Don't pretend that's honorable, please.
Dane_in_LA, maybe this is the cynicism in me, but I think the UDC didn't just ignore the decent advice they were given. I think they gave that advice, and the people who who gave it, the middle finger. It wasn't just Lee who didn't want statues of his likeness. There were many people back then who weren't happy to see monuments to Confederate generals.
The United Daughters of the Confederacy did more than just erect Confederate monuments. It also erected monuments praising the Ku Klux Klan. It also managed to get lies into textbooks. The United Daughters had some of the ugliest influence on school children, without being able to vote at the time. The UDC pushed white supremacy in a roundabout way. The UDC would say things like "Black slaves were happy and contented in their slave condition".
I read this article today, to supplement some of the points people like you and me are trying to convey. What the UDC was doing was part of an effort to promote and entrench white supremacy in the South.
Dane_in_LA, maybe this is the cynicism in me, but I think the UDC didn't just ignore the decent advice they were given. I think they gave that advice, and the people who who gave it, the middle finger. It wasn't just Lee who didn't want statues of his likeness. There were many people back then who weren't happy to see monuments to Confederate generals.
The United Daughters of the Confederacy did more than just erect Confederate monuments. It also erected monuments praising the Ku Klux Klan. It also managed to get lies into textbooks. The United Daughters had some of the ugliest influence on school children, without being able to vote at the time. The UDC pushed white supremacy in a roundabout way. The UDC would say things like "Black slaves were happy and contented in their slave condition".
I read this article today, to supplement some of the points people like you and me are trying to convey. What the UDC was doing was part of an effort to promote and entrench white supremacy in the South.
"In 1787 the Northern States voted against the abolition of slavery, the Southern States voted for it. pg 66
Henry had written to the authorities, who had employed him in Canada, that although he found the leaders of the Federalists of New England ripe for any measure which could sever the Union, yet the masses of the people held so strongly to the sentiment of Union that he doubted if it could be immediately dissolved. pg 68 He suggested that the best way to further this scheme of disunion would be to get up some sectional domestic question on which the prejudices and passions of the people could be permanently divided. This, he was sure would in time accomplish disunion. The sectional question he spoke of was slavery. He did not miscalculate, it did its work." pg 69
The Norther States too had a confederacy --- opposition to the u.s. Constitution was large.
That that was sowed then, continues to be sowed today.
Dane_in_LA, maybe this is the cynicism in me, but I think the UDC didn't just ignore the decent advice they were given. I think they gave that advice, and the people who who gave it, the middle finger. It wasn't just Lee who didn't want statues of his likeness. There were many people back then who weren't happy to see monuments to Confederate generals.
The United Daughters of the Confederacy did more than just erect Confederate monuments. It also erected monuments praising the Ku Klux Klan. It also managed to get lies into textbooks. The United Daughters had some of the ugliest influence on school children, without being able to vote at the time. The UDC pushed white supremacy in a roundabout way. The UDC would say things like "Black slaves were happy and contented in their slave condition".
I read this article today, to supplement some of the points people like you and me are trying to convey. What the UDC was doing was part of an effort to promote and entrench white supremacy in the South.
Show the link about the Founders being treasonous. I like that one better.
Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
The Founders absolutely were traitors to King George III and would've been strung up if they'd lost.
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