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Old 12-12-2020, 08:51 AM
 
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Dangerous precedent? Hah. The issue was that Texas wanted to undo election law changes because they didn't get a Republican in the White House. Texas has no standing to force another state to do its will. This was why Texas broke away and joined the Confederacy in 1861. They didn't want other states or the federal government telling them they can't use slave labor anymore. This time the state wanted states that changed election laws due to a pandemic to what Texas had was unconstitutional. Where was this any previous year? It sounds more like sore loser-ism. The decent opinion even said the case should only been heard, not that it was a travesty that the change in laws happened.

Not right now, but IMO a Civil War will ensue eventually.
Texas may become its own country as a result IMO.
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:52 AM
 
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You have it totally bass-ackwards. The Supreme Court was right. There was no reason to hear it because 1.- No merit and 2.- Not their jurisdiction. Voting is a states right issue- it's ingrained IN THE CONSTITUTION. It is not the realm of the Federal Government by design.

The states have their institutions set the voting rules for their states, the feds mandate a determined date and the structural rules for electors. It's the states, by design, who determines WHO represents them in the Federal Government.

It ain't the other way around.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/states-rights
AND - most importantly; it is certainly not constitutionally provided or within the purview of one state to overcome or change the outcome of a Federal election in any other state via any court in the land.

The "supremes" have spoken wisely.
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Will you please kindly stop making this about race when the poster IMO didn't mean that.

We all will be getting what is coming to us, and it's not good IMO.
It isn't racist or sexist, it is saying the Norman Rockwell America that never was really doesn't exist anymore and hasn't for some decades. Had it been said like that, I think the only point of contention you'd have that I said that the Rockwell America stopped in the 1970's.
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:53 AM
 
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AND - most importantly; it is certainly not constitutionally provided or within the purview of one state to overcome or change the outcome of a Federal election in any other state via any court in the land.

The "supremes" have spoken wisely.

They sure have, but not the SCOTUS.
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey area
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Today a dangerous precedent was established by the supreme court, and it will have ramifications for years to come.
I don't care if it's Donald Trump, or Betty Boop, the error is going to be with us , perhaps forever.
In this case, the constitution was on trial, and it should have been the court's duty to investigate the complaint.

We aren't talking about some shoplifting in a local Walmart, we are talking about a document, and yardstick by which this country has operated since it's inception.

This case before the court was not about voter fraud, it was about the rules set up in the constitution, and the court was derelict in it's duty not to hear the case.
In a suit claiming the constitution was being abandoned in some states, the court should have looked at evidence, and then made a decision.
Instead it ruled the plaintiff had no standing in the case.
Once again, this is not just some punk who got caught steeling from Walmart, this is the lifeblood of this nation we are talking about.
Standing should not have mattered in such a serious complaint.
It is, and was the sworn duty of the supreme court to uphold the constitution of this country, and today that was not the case.
I worry for this country going forward.
This decision rendered today, will forever be used as a precedent, and case law going forward, in anything currently, and in the future in all courts of law.

This ruling allows the states to do as they wish, regardless of what the constitution states .

It was a RECKLESS, AND DANGEROUS PRECEDENT set by the supreme court today, and I don't believe it can ever be undone.


The case should have never been brought before the supreme court which is why it tried to skip the normal routes.

you are right, this isn't about some punk steeling. what it is about is a Tyrannical leader that was using this country as his own personal play toy. In the last weeks we have seen him lie, cry, & threaten by firing anyone who has stood up to him.


the supreme court did what the many members of the senate are unable and unwilling to do. Stand up to a deranged dictator.

It's the best thing about the constitution, 3 distinct branches of the government .


BRAVO JUSTICES

oh and lastly nothe supreme court does not have to listen to have Tom, dick and harry with a complaint. A case must have some type of MERIT and sorry claiming someone may have and possible could have, or maybe there was something IS NOT, I REPEAT IS NOT merit nor evidence.

This case had neither. which is why it's been tossed out 51 times
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Not right now, but IMO a Civil War will ensue eventually.
Texas may become its own country as a result IMO.
I hope not. We can't afford another war on a credit card. That said I would love to see the conservative Congress critters who talk a big game about debt when a Democrat is in power, explain their way out of turning on the war machine again

IMHO, we should have learned from the American Civil War that Civil War is the worst idea. If a state wants to secede, let them.
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:57 AM
 
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Will you please kindly stop making this about race when the poster IMO didn't mean that.

We all will be getting what is coming to us, and it's not good IMO.
it's not specifically about race, it's about people wanting to live in this "fantasy" land. about yearning for the "good old" days. guess what, the so called "good old days" were only "good" for a select group.

America has changed and the constitution is meant for all it's citizens.
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:58 AM
 
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I worry for our country.

You are not alone. I worry for our country too.

We have learned that about 40% of our country would support a traitor under any circumstances, about 75% of Republicans, one half of Republicans in the US House, 18 state Attorney General ... it's a damned circus train.

THAT is disturbing.
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:58 AM
 
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Not right now, but IMO a Civil War will ensue eventually.
Texas may become its own country as a result IMO.
Horse-chit! There will be no civil war. Throughout history, impotent, whining, self interested, bellicose-bluffery has generally been ignored by the vast majority . It will be again.

Texans, for the most part, know upon which side their bread is buttered.
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Old 12-12-2020, 09:00 AM
 
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Not right now, but IMO a Civil War will ensue eventually.
Texas may become its own country as a result IMO.
If there were a real civil war (which I sincerely doubt) Texas would turn into a dusty wasteland.

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