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I am copying and pasting some comments posted on a private site I am on. Helps to shed some light on the possible"strategy" if you will:
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<<<"When it comes to elections there is no HIGHER or FINAL authority than the state legislatures. No, not even the Supreme Court has the final say in this, believe it or not. In all of this where is Trump? He's quiet. Where is Sidney Powell? Lin Wood? Rudy? Jenna?
An hour has passed and no one said anything on twitter about it. What if I told you Trump knew this case would get thrown out? He had to know this and I'll tell you why. One of Trump's lawyers is Mark Levin's wife. The Levin's are leading authorities on constitutional law.
Why is this important? Because the Texas filing was weak. Their argument was REALLY weak, so weak that both of the Levin's would have told Trump days ago that this case wasn't going to get heard. In fact...Mark Levin DID say it wasn't going to get heard on his radio show...all week long and he was right.
Justice Alito was right in his decision. He argued that the state of Texas wasn't, in so many words, as serious about a resolution as they pretended to be. He said there weren't "interested" in real resolution...and he was right.
He stated that just as in Arizona vs California 589 U.S. where they disputed over the distribution over the water from the colorado river, the actions of what state cannot disenfranchise the actions of another.
In other words Texas can't say they were wronged because they voted for Trump and PA voted for Biden, even if the laws were illegal. One state cannot dictate the actions of another state otherwise we would have precedence for no individuality of states.
They would all dispute over matters until EVERY state had the same laws...therefore simulating a federal regulation where it becomes national. The SCOTUS cannot set that precedence. What would be next? California suing Nevada for having more favorable tax breaks, drawing California businesses to register there instead of California, disenfranchising the other taxpayers and programs in California that need the tax dollars (for example)?
Do you have any idea how bad it would be to make that precedence? When there is no competition there is tyranny.
Moving right along...
The state of Texas produced a weak argument. Trump knew this but he still pushed it. Why? Legal strategy. Here's what I mean...
In the legal process, the accuser has the greatest amount of pressure in the case. The accused is innocent by default so all of the pressure of proving their side rides on the accuser. At the same time, if the Judge throws the accuser's case out with prejudice, the accuser can't bring that complaint up again.
What I'm saying is the GREATEST risk to a case is to become the prosecutor. As a matter of fact, it's easier to DEFEND yourself than it is to PROVE that the person you accused is guilty. Stay with me. It's long but I'm going somewhere...
So whoever brings the case first runs the highest risk of losing before they even have a chance to fight. Why is that important? Because Trump stands a better chance of winning this as a defendant than he does as an accuser.
Now comes the good part...
I've said this a thousand times and I'll say it again. Trump doesn't need the courts to win! He only needs for the state legislatures to do their jobs! And...if he gets a SCOTUS hearing that's just icing on the cake. Now let me tell you what is about to happen.
I thought for a while that one of two things would happen. 1, SCOTUS would hear this first cast. 2, SCOTUS would NOT hear the first case but they may or may not hear the second case. We're having this chat so option 1 didn't happen.
So here's what's going to happen. The state legislatures will be pissed. They will feel as if THEY have been disenfranchised, and either on Monday or January 6th (when Congress count the votes) the state legislatures will CHANGE their certifications to Trump, those 4 states (maybe even AZ and NV too).
This will cause an internal legal battle within the states. By article 2 second 2 of the constitution, the state legislatures have the final say on who they want to certify as the winner of their states. Well this will **** off the Governors who all have illegally certified the states and illegally passed state laws that strip the state legislatures of their article 2 second 2 powers.
The states will say "we have the right, we're not backing down" and the Governor's AG will say "see you in court." Now comes that second scenario I talked about. The SCOTUS is in a pickle. They don't have the authority to tell the state legislatures to ignore the constitution and follow federal law. Federal law is automatically overridden by the constitution. So they can do one of two things.
Take the case and no matter what they ruled, the state legislatures can ignore it since they have constitutional rights. Or the SCOTUS can do what I THINK they're going to do....throw the case out.
Now you can't say the SCOTUS was politicized since they threw out both cases. But in throwing OUT the case, they legitimize the state legislature's decisions. Trump wins.
But what if they take the case? Ok. Remember when I said that it's harder to win as an accuser than it is as a defendant? Well the AG of PA (for example) will have to explain why and how any federal law can override the constitution.
I'm betting 5 of those Justices will disagree with that and they can LITERALLY cite the constitution as precedence and final authority. Trump wins. I believe that the SCOTUS will keep out of this for sake of not showing partiality.
But if they DO get involved, it will be after January 6th where a constitutional crisis will exist and then they would need to step in and settle the matter in 3 possible ways.
1, Ignore the complaints, Trump wins...
2, Take the case, invalidate the elections, give it to the states to vote...Trump wins as we have a state majority of 26 or...
3, Take the case, order a nationwide audit and recertification. With all the fraud.....Trump wins.
In the end, Trump will win. You can roll these dice as many times as you want. The Constitution will win this election for Trump.">>>
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PLEASE REMEMBER THESE ARE NOT MY PERSONAL COMMENTS, I merely copied and pasted because I thought it was interesting.
it's not specifically about race, it's about people wanting to live in this "fantasy" land. about yearning for the "good old" days. guess what, the so called "good old days" were only "good" for a select group.
America has changed and the constitution is meant for all it's citizens.
"JUSTICE FOR ALL" means diddly for "x" amount of politicians.
Same with the constitution.
We have learned that about 40% of our country would support a traitor under any circumstances, about 75% of Republicans, one half of Republicans in the US House, 18 state Attorney General ... it's a damned circus train.
THAT is disturbing.
Can you believe it?
They wanted the Supreme Court to overthrow the results of an election.
The Supreme court upheld the law. It did not allow the seditious anti democratic actions of Trump, Texas, and all his GOP Auotcratic allies to subvert the election and nullify the votes of some 20 million Americans in four states.
My worry for the country is kind of over, I think it’s a lost cause sadly. I’m just praying there is a safe place for decent, Christian people to live and raise their children somewhere in America in the future and I’m sad I’m here to see the end and glad my parents are not.
We have let too many undesirables in here. They do not have ambition or creativity and they are being used as pawns in this big game to win the scraps of what is left of America and that great, rich nation that was built by much better generations of Americans.
This country as we know it is gone....... It is being transformed into communism....
I fear for the safety of the people of the USA that these evil people want to hurt......
This is not the world I was born into....
There are always evil people who want to dominate, & control others...enslave them, for their own personal gain. I call them the top 1%, but some call them politicians, CEO's, & elite's. They come from all sides of the political spectrum.
Then, there's always naive people who are cleverly conditioned by the evil's to go along with their hidden agenda, because the naive's become incapable of seeing, or believing it. Today, we call them Democrats, moderate Republicans, & Independents.
Then, there's a 3rd group, I'll call the see'ers, who see the evil people for what they are, who can see the evil's hidden agenda, & resist it, while fruitlessly trying to get the naive's to see it too. These are right of center Republicans, Conservatives, & Libertarians.
That sumarizes this forum, the current state of our Republic, & the history of humanity.
It leads to conflict, & death. It's just a matter of when, where, & who will win.
The natural state of human's is tyranny, & slavery.
Freedom is an anomoly, we just happen to be living in...for now. Freedom is a mere blink in time.
There's nothing the see'ers can say, or do, to convince the naive's of the evil's hidden path to slavery.
It is, what it is. It's the natural order of humanity. Its been this way for Thousands of years.
All of us, or our kids, or their kids kids, will become enslaved. My money's on the Chinese to enslave Earth, for Hundreds of years to come.
The naive Democrats will win, by siding with the evils, but their won will be very short-lived. The evils will quickly turn on the naive's, & the evils hidden agenda of control will then be revealed to the naive's.
At that point, its too late to undo what has been done. The noose of communism is around every neck.
Just study history...its all right there.
I'm off to look at a new boat, so enjoy your day, & your freedom, because our days are numbered.
How is it dangerous to have states obey the Constitution? That's all TX was asking for.
Say if FL wrote a state law that mandated FL citizens send their federal taxes to Tallahassee, not US Treasury. You bet other states would sue.
Apples and oranges. The federal government has jurisdiction over the collection of federal income taxes. It does not have jurisdiction over state voting procedures.
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They may be, but other influences that we don't know may be at play IMO.
No one is stopping you from leaving this world. Guns, drugs, suicide by police, jumping out of a window 10 stories high, etc. There are plenty of ways out of this world. Stop sniveling and throwing toddler like tantrums and GO!
So you’re telling someone to commit suicide. Are you nuts?
Apples and oranges. The federal government has jurisdiction over the collection of federal income taxes. It does not have jurisdiction over state voting procedures.
Only state legislatures can make voting procedures. See Art. 1, § 4, cl. 1, of the United States Constitution
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