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Old 12-18-2020, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Okay, I'll admit it...I'm an evil rich guy. I hope I don't get banned by C-D for admitting it. I'm not top 1% rich though, so some of you might still not block me out.

I hope you all realize the difference between top 2% and top 1% is massive.

So, I'm only a top 2%'er, so not sure I qualify to respond to this topic, but here goes anyways...

I bought a Porche from a dealership in Seattle. The sales lady, who was newly graduated from college, & just starting out made a nice commission on the sale. Is that trickle down? A truck driver delivered it to me in Georgia. The truck driver did not appear to be rich to me....but looks can be deceiving.

I bought a new home in Florida. The sales guy, who was poor after a recent divorce, made a nice commission on it. Is that trickle down?

After buying the home, we had a parade of small businesses do mods to the home...screened in lanai, change the landscaping, plantation blinds, hang a chandelier, install ceiling fans, ect.. None of those small businesses & contractors were rich, most middle class. Is that trickle down?

I'm looking at buying a boat, the sales guy is an ex-law enforcement officer who just did a career change so he could feed his wife and 3 kids, and be able to buy a home some day. He'll make a nice commission of the sale of the boat to me. Is that trickle down?

Maybe I don't understand what Libs mean by trickle down.
The percentage of income spent on consumption goes down as income goes up.
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Old 12-19-2020, 03:48 AM
 
Location: NYC
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No. The question is why anybody should be forced to pay more taxes than other people?

That is taxation without representation.

But when has that actually happened? The way i see it, billionaires aren't even paying the normal federal income taxes, that they should be, due to Trump's 2 trillion dollar tax cuts. How is anyone being forced to pay more? If anything the super wealthy are paying less in taxes now than ever, and that is why our deficit is ballooning. Who do you think will be paying for those tax cuts down the road? It won't be Jeff Bezos, I guarantee that.

The top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent and they aren't paying their fair share of taxes, like the rest of this country, you have a huge impending problem on your hands.
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Old 12-19-2020, 03:53 AM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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they aren't paying their fair share of taxes, like the rest of this country, you have a huge impending problem on your hands.
What percent of someone's income should go to the government? What would be a "fair share"? Should all income be taxed the same?
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:27 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Fifty Years of Tax Cuts for Rich Didn’t Trickle Down
And yet fifty years of welfare is suppose to trickle you up the social ladder?
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Comparing minimum wage earners to being in slavery is ignorant and racist.
Liberals have to be dramatic for their narrative. Native born Americans whine, immigrants work. There's something about being born in a developing country that sparks their ambition while Americans just want socialism or they'll accuse you of enslavement.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:44 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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More Communist drivel. If you don't make it here you're an idiot. There are plenty of poorer people that do well, get rich and succeed. It happens all the time but the Left want to remain constant VICTIMS. Pessimism, doom and gloom is there trade. All lies.
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Old 12-19-2020, 05:03 AM
 
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Fairly obvious conclusion given the stagnant wages(despite rising productivity), wealth concentration, and monopolization trends/shrinking GDP share of small businesses.

Fifty Years of Tax Cuts for Rich Didn’t Trickle Down, Study Says
"The paper, by David Hope of the London School of Economics and Julian Limberg of King’s College London,"

Don't know much about how England's economy works but HERE the wealthy having MORE money SPEND more which "trickles down" to MORE jobs needed to fulfill the demand for products which helps CREATE MORE JOBS.
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Old 12-19-2020, 05:04 AM
 
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In other news water is wet. Shouldnt be a surprise unless you are a blind bootlegging fool.
Are you speaking about yourself again?
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Old 12-19-2020, 05:07 AM
 
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not really. you dont see the massive leap until you hit the top 0.1%

Yes and no. Theres a ton of trickle down at the 2% and 1% level. But thats also where very little money is. I know for most people a 6 or 7 figure income sounds insane, but its not. Im in the top 10% for single earners I think, so for me yeah-you make a LOT more then me. But my family is....hmm...how to put this. My father made more in one year then I have made in the last 50 years. Ive seen a grand total of...$3,000 of it when he gave me some help with my house down payment-and even that was transactional shall we say. Its not that we are estranged so much as my father has seen other children ruined by parents helping too much. Ive seen someone get a fully paid ride to Harvard and Yale, everything. A license to print money.....and they have failed in life. Horrifically.

So I've lived on estates with maids, and gardeners when I stayed with him during summers as a child....and Ive lived with my mom in abject poverty the rest of the time. It was....eye opening.

So when you get a tax break, you still spend a lot of it. It DOES trickle down. When the top .1% gets one...nothing changes. They dont do things that move that money, they're spending a million a year in things....but taking in tens of millions more. their spending doesn't change much, but their investments crowd everyone else out at the bottom end.

And...theyre completely unaware of how life actually works. A speeding ticket for them is more about the time the cop wastes in writing it, then it is the money. If they really want to they can destroy someones life using pocket change. Its a different world entirely. And trickle down just doesnt occur because most are spending all they really want or need too.
Payng for a maid IS TRICKLE DOWN!
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Old 12-19-2020, 05:12 AM
 
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Yeah trickle down is an economic theory that needs to be put to rest for good. We’ve tried it for a long time. It doesn’t work.
I am never surprised how so many on her don't mind making fools of themselves!
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