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Old 05-11-2021, 01:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010 View Post
Nothing to explain. The virus has killed over 35K Floridians.
Explain Florida. Focus .... and explain Florida.

Why so FEW deaths?

This is a horrific pandemic of epic proportions. Why has less than 1% of the population succumbed to this horrible virus raging through this completely open, no restrictions state with the nation's most vulnerable population?

I'll ask again: Explain Florida.

 
Old 05-11-2021, 01:38 PM
 
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I've brought up Florida so many times and so many threads.

And the most prolific and vocal and ... NASTY ... posters cannot explain why Florida has such low numbers when taking int account it's bee n OPEN for a YEAR.

They literally ignore it.

Because it does not fit into the line of thinking that the majority of the US is going to die of COVID. That a pandemic affects how many? What percent is considered a pandemic?

They have their story and are sticking to it. They won't look at numbers that don't fit. Blinders on. Fingers in ears.

Stunning.
 
Old 05-11-2021, 01:44 PM
 
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All About The Vaccines

The rapid development of safe and effective COVID vaccines is one of the great scientific achievements of our times. The battle now is against the other virus – a social media-fueled storm of misinformation. A storm that we are witnessing on this deteriorating thread as those, whose aim is to undermine science and sabotage the COVID vaccines, spin their deception & disinformation with ignorant opinion, pseudo-science and conspiracy theories.

Anyone on this site, or paying attention elsewhere, have most likely been expecting it, but wow in the past few months the Anti-vaxxers have gone into overdrive. "COVID vaccines will change our DNA, implant microchips or sterilize us all", they say. "COVID is caused by 5G radiation, biological warfare or aliens. It’s a ‘plandemic’ led by Bill Gates, big pharma and the WHO (World Health Organization). Or maybe it’s all just an elaborate hoax."

C'mon folks, there are consequences to this. This nonsense and this concerted campaign is costing lives. Yes, misinformation costs lives. Without the appropriate trust and correct information, diagnostic tests go unused, immunization efforts will not meet their targets, and the virus will continue to thrive.

It is time to stop pretending the organized operation of disinformation, that we are seeing on this thread--by the usual suspects--- is genuine curiosity and concern by people trying to learn more and educate themselves. This is not mere hesitancy we are witnessing. This is sabotage and deceit with cruelty and disease and death as the only outcome. The truly hesitant searching for help and truthful information and scientific evidence need to be inoculated against the anti-vaxxers.

We need to act quickly and firmly against these narratives, and people need to know the truth:
The evidence is overwhelming that the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective and are working to curb spread, infections, hospitalizations and death. They are our way out of this pandemic.

A few facts about the anti-vaccination movement:

*the largest English-language anti-vaxxers’ social media accounts enjoy a global following of 69.2 million people, enough to compromise a vaccine’s ability to contain disease.

*The movement consists of four main groups: "hate actors"(eg purveyors of racism), "economically-motivated actors’"(eg those selling products), "fringe political actors" (eg those wanting to undermine governments or science) and "misinformed citizens’" ( the easily led and ignorant conspiracy types)

*The United States hosts the world’s largest and best-organized anti-vaccine groups. According to the London-based Center for Countering Digital Hate, these are influential groups, not a spontaneous grass-roots movement. Many far-right extremist groups that spread false information about last year’s US presidential election and those who spin loony "Q" conspiracy stories are doing the same about vaccines.

*A dozen anti-vaccine accounts are responsible for 65% of disinformation shared online

Halting the spread of the coronavirus will require a high-level counteroffensive against new destructive forces. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01084-x

Anti-vaccine and alt-right groups team up to stoke fears of COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...vid-19-vaccine

IMO, it's way past time to stop providing oxygen by way of serious debate with the dishonest, deceptive, & disingenuous actors of this ugly anti-science & anti-vaccination & anti-public health operation.

Last edited by corpgypsy; 05-11-2021 at 02:00 PM.. Reason: punctuation correction
 
Old 05-11-2021, 01:47 PM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corpgypsy View Post
All About The Vaccines

The rapid development of safe and effective COVID vaccines is one of the great scientific achievements of our times. The battle now is against the other virus – a social media-fueled storm of misinformation. A storm that we are witnessing on this deteriorating thread as those whose aim is to undermine science and sabotage the COVID vaccines spin their deception & disinformation with ignorant opinion, pseudo-science and conspiracy theories.

Anyone on this site, or paying attention elsewhere, have most likely been expecting it, but wow in the past few months the Anti-vaxxers have gone into overdrive. "COVID vaccines will change our DNA, implant microchips or sterilize us all", they say. "COVID is caused by 5G radiation, biological warfare or aliens. It’s a ‘plandemic’ led by Bill Gates, big pharma and the WHO (World Health Organization). Or maybe it’s all just an elaborate hoax."

C'mon folks, there are consequences to this. This nonsense and this concerted campaign is costing lives. Yes, misinformation costs lives. Without the appropriate trust and correct information, diagnostic tests go unused, immunization efforts will not meet their targets, and the virus will continue to thrive.

It is time to stop pretending the organized operation of disinformation, that we are seeing on this thread--by the usual suspects--- is genuine curiosity and concern by people trying to learn more and educate themselves. This is not mere hesitancy we are witnessing. This is sabotage and deceit with cruelty and disease and death as the only outcome. The truly hesitant searching for help and truthful information and scientific evidence need to be inoculated against the anti-vaxxers.

We need to act quickly and firmly against these narratives, and people need to know the truth:
The evidence is overwhelming that the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective and are working to curb the spread, infections, hospitalizations and death. They are our way out of this pandemic.

A few facts about the anti-vaccination movement:

*the largest English-language anti-vaxxers’ social media accounts enjoy a global following of 69.2 million people, enough to compromise a vaccine’s ability to contain disease.

*The movement consists of four main groups: "hate actors"(eg purveyors of racism), "economically-motivated actors’"(eg those selling products), "fringe political actors" (eg those wanting to undermine governments or science) and "misinformed citizens’" ( the easily led and ignorant conspiracy types)

*The United States hosts the world’s largest and best-organized anti-vaccine groups. According to the London-based Center for Countering Digital Hate, these are influential groups, not a spontaneous grass-roots movement. Many far-right extremist groups that spread false information about last year’s US presidential election and those who spin loony "Q" conspiracy stories are doing the same about vaccines.

*A dozen anti-vaccine accounts are responsible for 65% of disinformation shared online

Halting the spread of the coronavirus will require a high-level counteroffensive against new destructive forces. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01084-x

Anti-vaccine and alt-right groups team up to stoke fears of COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...vid-19-vaccine

You realize 5 companies own EVERY MSM news outlet in the US?

The way out of the pandemic is by stop being terrified. Live your life. Why are you waiting for PERMISSION to live your life? Just sad.

What numbers support your theory of when the pandemic can be called "over"?

Can you Explain Florida?
 
Old 05-11-2021, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corpgypsy View Post
All About The Vaccines

The rapid development of safe and effective COVID vaccines is one of the great scientific achievements of our times. The battle now is against the other virus – a social media-fueled storm of misinformation. A storm that we are witnessing on this deteriorating thread as those, whose aim is to undermine science and sabotage the COVID vaccines, spin their deception & disinformation with ignorant opinion, pseudo-science and conspiracy theories.

Anyone on this site, or paying attention elsewhere, have most likely been expecting it, but wow in the past few months the Anti-vaxxers have gone into overdrive. "COVID vaccines will change our DNA, implant microchips or sterilize us all", they say. "COVID is caused by 5G radiation, biological warfare or aliens. It’s a ‘plandemic’ led by Bill Gates, big pharma and the WHO (World Health Organization). Or maybe it’s all just an elaborate hoax."

C'mon folks, there are consequences to this. This nonsense and this concerted campaign is costing lives. Yes, misinformation costs lives. Without the appropriate trust and correct information, diagnostic tests go unused, immunization efforts will not meet their targets, and the virus will continue to thrive.

It is time to stop pretending the organized operation of disinformation, that we are seeing on this thread--by the usual suspects--- is genuine curiosity and concern by people trying to learn more and educate themselves. This is not mere hesitancy we are witnessing. This is sabotage and deceit with cruelty and disease and death as the only outcome. The truly hesitant searching for help and truthful information and scientific evidence need to be inoculated against the anti-vaxxers.

We need to act quickly and firmly against these narratives, and people need to know the truth: The evidence is overwhelming that the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective and are working to curb the spread, infections, hospitalizations and death. They are our way out of this pandemic.

A few facts about the anti-vaccination movement:

*the largest English-language anti-vaxxers’ social media accounts enjoy a global following of 69.2 million people, enough to compromise a vaccine’s ability to contain disease.

*The movement consists of four main groups: "hate actors"(eg purveyors of racism), "economically-motivated actors’"(eg those selling products), "fringe political actors" (eg those wanting to undermine governments or science) and "misinformed citizens’" ( the easily led and ignorant conspiracy types)

*The United States hosts the world’s largest and best-organized anti-vaccine groups. According to the London-based Center for Countering Digital Hate, these are influential groups, not a spontaneous grass-roots movement. Many far-right extremist groups that spread false information about last year’s US presidential election and those who spin loony "Q" conspiracy stories are doing the same about vaccines.

*A dozen anti-vaccine accounts are responsible for 65% of disinformation shared online

Halting the spread of the coronavirus will require a high-level counteroffensive against new destructive forces. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01084-x

Anti-vaccine and alt-right groups team up to stoke fears of COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...vid-19-vaccine

IMO, it's way past time to stop providing oxygen by way of serious debate with these dishonest & deceptive actors of this ugly anti-science & anti-vaccination & anti-public health operation.
I promised myself I'd never take anyone who uses Comic Sans seriously, and I'm not about to start now.

lmao

ETA:

Quote:
This is sabotage and deceit with cruelty and disease and death as the only outcome.
Talk about disinformation and ignorant opinions.
 
Old 05-11-2021, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island
32,860 posts, read 19,573,892 times
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
Explain Florida. Focus .... and explain Florida.

Why so FEW deaths?

This is a horrific pandemic of epic proportions. Why has less than 1% of the population succumbed to this horrible virus raging through this completely open, no restrictions state with the nation's most vulnerable population?

I'll ask again: Explain Florida.
why don't you ask actual doctors to explain Florida


as to why...


could be the weather


could be that Florida is doing real well with vaccinations... 44.3% vaccinated (9.5 million with at least one dose)


could be what you are looking at.... Florida 2.27 million CASES of Covid….35.7k deaths … 1.5% deaths...10% of the population infected




could be the testing.... 28 million tests administered (to a 22m population)….sounds to me like they did real well with testing
 
Old 05-11-2021, 02:12 PM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corpgypsy View Post
All About The Vaccines

The rapid development of safe and effective COVID vaccines is one of the great scientific achievements of our times. The battle now is against the other virus – a social media-fueled storm of misinformation. A storm that we are witnessing on this deteriorating thread as those, whose aim is to undermine science and sabotage the COVID vaccines, spin their deception & disinformation with ignorant opinion, pseudo-science and conspiracy theories.

Anyone on this site, or paying attention elsewhere, have most likely been expecting it, but wow in the past few months the Anti-vaxxers have gone into overdrive. "COVID vaccines will change our DNA, implant microchips or sterilize us all", they say. "COVID is caused by 5G radiation, biological warfare or aliens. It’s a ‘plandemic’ led by Bill Gates, big pharma and the WHO (World Health Organization). Or maybe it’s all just an elaborate hoax."

C'mon folks, there are consequences to this. This nonsense and this concerted campaign is costing lives. Yes, misinformation costs lives. Without the appropriate trust and correct information, diagnostic tests go unused, immunization efforts will not meet their targets, and the virus will continue to thrive.

It is time to stop pretending the organized operation of disinformation, that we are seeing on this thread--by the usual suspects--- is genuine curiosity and concern by people trying to learn more and educate themselves. This is not mere hesitancy we are witnessing. This is sabotage and deceit with cruelty and disease and death as the only outcome. The truly hesitant searching for help and truthful information and scientific evidence need to be inoculated against the anti-vaxxers.

We need to act quickly and firmly against these narratives, and people need to know the truth:
The evidence is overwhelming that the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective and are working to curb spread, infections, hospitalizations and death. They are our way out of this pandemic.

A few facts about the anti-vaccination movement:

*the largest English-language anti-vaxxers’ social media accounts enjoy a global following of 69.2 million people, enough to compromise a vaccine’s ability to contain disease.

*The movement consists of four main groups: "hate actors"(eg purveyors of racism), "economically-motivated actors’"(eg those selling products), "fringe political actors" (eg those wanting to undermine governments or science) and "misinformed citizens’" ( the easily led and ignorant conspiracy types)

*The United States hosts the world’s largest and best-organized anti-vaccine groups. According to the London-based Center for Countering Digital Hate, these are influential groups, not a spontaneous grass-roots movement. Many far-right extremist groups that spread false information about last year’s US presidential election and those who spin loony "Q" conspiracy stories are doing the same about vaccines.

*A dozen anti-vaccine accounts are responsible for 65% of disinformation shared online

Halting the spread of the coronavirus will require a high-level counteroffensive against new destructive forces. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01084-x

Anti-vaccine and alt-right groups team up to stoke fears of COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...vid-19-vaccine

IMO, it's way past time to stop providing oxygen by way of serious debate with the dishonest, deceptive, & disingenuous actors of this ugly anti-science & anti-vaccination & anti-public health operation.
Nice gaslighting.
 
Old 05-11-2021, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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https://video.foxnews.com/v/6253684543001#sp=show-clips

Rand Paul Dr Fauci Round II
 
Old 05-11-2021, 02:35 PM
 
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So the viral spikes can be dangerous, but the fake decoy spikes in the vaccines are completely safe to put inside your body? I don't buy it.
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Originally Posted by Rom623 View Post
correct

A study on it - link
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In the new study, the researchers created a “pseudovirus” that was surrounded by SARS-CoV-2 classic crown of spike proteins, but did not contain any actual virus. Exposure to this pseudovirus resulted in damage to the lungs and arteries of an animal model—proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease. Tissue samples showed inflammation in endothelial cells lining the pulmonary artery walls.

The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented.
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Another article on this issue. - link
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A landmark study in Nature Neuroscience documented that commercially obtained COVID-19 spike protein (S1) injected into mice not only crossed the blood-brain barrier into the brain, but also the lung, spleen, kidney and liver of the mice.

A second study published in Neurobiology of Disease reported that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alone, without the virus, is a potent inductor of endothelial dysfunction through interaction with ACE-2 receptors resulting in a pro-inflammatory response in the vessel linings.
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Redwood said it’s critical that we thoroughly research these vaccine-related injuries before we resume vaccination with spike protein vaccines, especially in children where we have no real data on safety and effectiveness.
Well we have the data now, our MSM just wont report on it. Complete betrayal of the American people.

Peter McCullough talks about it in this article as well.

Quote:
So I think this was effectively a scrubbing, like we’ve seen elsewhere. There is a Trusted News Initiative, which is very important for Americans to understand, this was announced Dec. 10, and this is a coalition of all the major media and government stakeholders in vaccination, where they are not going to allow any negative information about vaccines to get into the popular media because they’re concerned about vaccine hesitancy, that if Americans got any type of fair, balanced coverage on safety events then they simply would not come forward and get the vaccine.”
 
Old 05-11-2021, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC View Post
Everyone is going to have a different reaction because everyone is different.

Consumer beware...
Almost 600,000 Americans have died from not having been vaccinated
It is the Pandemic that is the issue
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