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Old 05-24-2021, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Spain
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Originally Posted by Diesel350z View Post
Over 1.6 BILLION coronavirus vaccine doses have not been administered worldwide. Where are all the confirmed deaths?
Apparently you are tasked with providing proof of something that didn't happen, since they can't provide proof that it did.

Logic of the anti-vaxxer army.

 
Old 05-24-2021, 07:35 AM
 
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Originally Posted by MissTerri View Post
What evidence do you have that it’s not?
It is obvious you are unable to provide the evidence so you are now shifting the burden of proof. You are asking to prove something that hasn't been established. If you make the claim, then provide the evidence.

What evidence do you have that pink elephants can fly in the air?
 
Old 05-24-2021, 07:40 AM
 
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by Diesel350z View Post
Agreed, show me the confirmed deaths. I'M STILL WAITING


The "No confirmed deaths" mantra isn't as foolproof as you seem to think. All it means is they haven't confirmed them. It means nothing else. There are any number of reasons why they might not have confirmed the 4k deaths and tens of thousands of injuries. It proves nothing. Just like the VAERS deaths proves nothing.

What people are saying is that 4k death reports should raise alarm. The European reporting shows even more deaths and injuries. In twenty years they didn't have this many deaths reported for all vaccines combined.
Not confirmed, but reported.

Just curious....imagine a hypothetical scenario where the vaccine did kill 4k people and injure tens of thousands more. Should that vaccine be halted? Should it be mandated?

Just wondering what the number is for you guys. How many deaths are acceptable?
 
Old 05-24-2021, 07:41 AM
 
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The "No confirmed deaths" mantra isn't as foolproof as you seem to think. All it means is they haven't confirmed them. It means nothing else. There are any number of reasons why they might not have confirmed the 4k deaths and tens of thousands of injuries. It proves nothing. Just like the VAERS deaths proves nothing.

What people are saying is that 4k death reports should raise alarm. The European data shows even more deaths and injuries. In twenty years they didn't have this many deaths reported for all vaccines combined.


Just curious....imagine a hypothetical scenario where the vaccine did kill 4k people and injure tens of thousands more. Should that vaccine be halted? Should it be mandated?

Just wondering what the number is for you guys. How many deaths are acceptable?
It is shocking that they literally believe that no vaccine ever causes any harm EVER.

It's statistically impossible. Yet they truly, truly believe it. Cult behavior.
 
Old 05-24-2021, 07:42 AM
 
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
Supply your evidence for your claims. All of it. All the long-term data, the APPROVED treatment protocols, the success rate.

You keep demanding proof ... when you have NONE to counter with.
I'm not the one making the claims. The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim.
 
Old 05-24-2021, 07:42 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel350z View Post
It is obvious you are unable to provide the evidence so you are now shifting the burden of proof. You are asking to prove something that hasn't been established. If you make the claim, then provide the evidence.

What evidence do you have that pink elephants can fly in the air?
Don’t you think they should evaluate the vaccine induced myocarditis in kids before proceeding? Kids are extremely low risk when it comes to covid and the vaccine should halted for this age group until there is a rigorous investigation. Or we could just keep using kids as guinea pigs. It’s not ethical but whatever.
 
Old 05-24-2021, 07:45 AM
 
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Originally Posted by kmom2 View Post
The "No confirmed deaths" mantra isn't as foolproof as you seem to think. All it means is they haven't confirmed them. It means nothing else. There are any number of reasons why they might not have confirmed the 4k deaths and tens of thousands of injuries. It proves nothing. Just like the VAERS deaths proves nothing.

What people are saying is that 4k death reports should raise alarm. The European reporting shows even more deaths and injuries. In twenty years they didn't have this many deaths reported for all vaccines combined.


Just curious....imagine a hypothetical scenario where the vaccine did kill 4k people and injure tens of thousands more. Should that vaccine be halted? Should it be mandated?

Just wondering what the number is for you guys. How many deaths are acceptable?
Nothing is acceptable. I want to see EVIDENCE. CONFIRIMATION of even one death.

All you are doing is SPECULATING.

Get back to us when you are done assuming that any deaths reported in VAERS are in fact confirmed deaths from vaccines.
 
Old 05-24-2021, 07:47 AM
 
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Nope. Pushing back and exposing the methods and lies of the anti-vax movement is not stifling questions.
Methods? Lies? You make numerous sweeping accusations suggesting a massive conspiracy with no evidence and no motive.

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And it is no laughing matter what the anti-vax community is doing as we can all see, as it rears its ugly head on this forum.
What is this group doing? What are their motives?
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Sadly, as with most manipulative movements, many of the most ardent crusaders and passionate influencers are propagandizing for a cause without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and are cynically being used by others.
Again, what are their motives? What does this group have to gain?
 
Old 05-24-2021, 07:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel350z View Post
I'm not the one making the claims. The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim.
There is NO burden of proof when ASKING A QUESTION.

It's a QUESTION.

: smack:
 
Old 05-24-2021, 07:49 AM
 
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by Diesel350z View Post
Nothing is acceptable. I want to see EVIDENCE. CONFIRIMATION of even one death.

All you are doing is SPECULATING.

Get back to us when you are done assuming that any deaths reported in VAERS are in fact confirmed deaths from vaccines.
So, if the government is backlogged and we can't CONFIRM the deaths for months, then what? We vaccinate everyone and...ignore the mounting VAERS reports...and hope for the best?

I am not speculating. I'm expressing a reasonable concern.

And define a 'confirmed' death. A patient's doctor might 'confirm.' My daughter had a meningitis vaccine injury and her doctor confirmed it. Do I need the High Priests of the CDC to give their blessing, or it didn't happen?
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