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THINK ABOUT IT. IF the vaccine particles weren't going where they were supposed to - into the arm muscle cells - then the vaccines wouldn't work very well, would they? The mRNA vaccines produced spectacular efficacy figures, although over time the nAbs are waning (which is normal).
"Efficient vaccination against infectious agents and tumors depends on specific antigen targeting to dendritic cells (DCs)." https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mBio.00171-10
Not into blood vessel walls or to the ovaries.
Since the vaccine works, it DOES stimulate the immune system that reacts by producing antibodies and white cells. This can be an inflammatory process and inflammation can be associated with side effects. That worst case scenario might be a stroke, although I believe there's another proposed explanation for the very rare strokes associated with the vector vaccines.
There is a conceptual and practically very important DIFFERENCE between a vaccine that gets lost on the way to the target, and an individual recipient whose immune system because the vaccine was on target deciding that it really does not like this foreign invader.
Vaccines and their expressed spikes stuck on blood vessels all over the body - that's a fairy tale. Per their efficiency and also per subsequent ultra-high detection tracing studies in humans, for example David Walt. And then the animal and other studies.
There are estimates that a severe case of covid results in spike production that is something like 40,000 X that of a vaccination. A vaccine is only stimulating the immune system just enough to perform as it is designed. An active virus replicates taking over more and more cells as it spreads.
That said, the 40,000 X estimate is probably exponentially higher than what happens in a very mild case of covid where the body produces far fewer spikes. Perhaps even comparable to vaccination? IDK.
The original rationale not to vaccinate was so-called 'spike' exposure from vaccination was a given. Being infected was not a given. This then led to the cost-benefit analyses that would give very different results today. Delta can rip through a school, for example.
The virus continues to mutate to become more infectious. Most will get immunities one way or another within some time period. Absent public health protections. The majority of the exposures should result in mild cases. (The human coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2 share limited cellular immunity overlaps, per a recent study.)
How is that job at Pfizer or Moderna treating you?
The vaccine doesn't do crap and a booster will only hurt the current situation. Your not talking about T cells which are way more important than anti-bodies. So just because they can show anti-bodies with a trial, doesn't mean anything. And they only did the trial on very healthy people who didn't need the vaccine to begin with. Complete joke of a trial when they select like 161 people out of the 40,000 in it anyway, and any real trial would be at least 5 years. Sure, its fine, lets all take a mRNA vaccine never been used or tested that long.
How is that job at Pfizer or Moderna treating you?
The vaccine doesn't do crap and a booster will only hurt the current situation. Your not talking about T cells which are way more important than anti-bodies. So just because they can show anti-bodies with a trial, doesn't mean anything. And they only did the trial on very healthy people who didn't need the vaccine to begin with. Complete joke of a trial when they select like 161 people out of the 40,000 in it anyway, and any real trial would be at least 5 years. Sure, its fine, lets all take a mRNA vaccine never been used or tested that long.
T cells do not prevent infection.
Without high enough antibody levels, you are stuck in "purgatory". This is a state where the "hospitalizationists" deny you the ability to get a third shot, but the "propagationists" leave you feeling guilty about not wearing masks or social distancing.
Definitions:
1. "Purgatory" - The state, approximately 6-8 months after receiving the Pfizer vaccine, where your protection against infection/transmission has declined to low levels, but you can't get a booster yet.
2. "Hospitalizationist" - a person that believes that the vaccine only needs to avert hospitalization and death, and does not need to prevent transmission or long covid.
3. "Propagationist" - a person that believes that one individual has a moral duty to avoid passing the disease onto others.
How is that job at Pfizer or Moderna treating you?
The vaccine doesn't do crap and a booster will only hurt the current situation. Your not talking about T cells which are way more important than anti-bodies. So just because they can show anti-bodies with a trial, doesn't mean anything. And they only did the trial on very healthy people who didn't need the vaccine to begin with. Complete joke of a trial when they select like 161 people out of the 40,000 in it anyway, and any real trial would be at least 5 years. Sure, its fine, lets all take a mRNA vaccine never been used or tested that long.
Current Covid hospitalization rate:
Top 25 vaccinated states: 17 per 100K
Bottom 24 vaccinated states: 33 per 100k
Immunity doesn't do much against delta. My neighbor caught COVID a year ago and then caught it again a few days ago and is now hospitalized. I've heard of people being infected 3 times. Just because you caught it once doesn't mean it will protect you against delta.
Cleveland Clinic did a study. It’s not peer reviewed and they covered themselves by recommendation of the shot at the end. Of course. I had read about it on Fox, but here’s info.
QUOTE:
“The study concludes, "individuals who have laboratory-confirmed symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before."
Immunity doesn't do much against delta. My neighbor caught COVID a year ago and then caught it again a few days ago and is now hospitalized. I've heard of people being infected 3 times. Just because you caught it once doesn't mean it will protect you against delta.
How did India's epidemiological curve come down, then?
I didn't ask how it didn't come down. I asked how it did come down.
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