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Old 12-26-2020, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Originally Posted by Cida View Post
A lot of the legal problems Trump is facing involve money. This is about hotel money. And a reminder of how he used his office to rake in payments to keep improperly enriching himself.

Is Trump the only DC politician to do what you claim?

Have there been others?

Is it a matter of how much they steal? If yes, what is your limit?

Did you attack politicians from both sides for doing it, or just 1 side?

Do you only attack pols you don't like?
Should we normalize graft because we're tribal and the other guys does it so it's okay if our guy does it too?

I say hell no. It doesn't matter which side of the isle is corrupt, they all need to be kicked out. Seriously, haven't you had enough of the elite on both sides getting away with the graft and corruption? Why is there a different set of rules for them vs us? Enough already. We have the power to change it. Vote for the other side if your guy is a corrupt POS. It's the only way to say loud and clear that this garbage is unacceptable.
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:00 PM
 
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Blah blah who will you blame when Trump is gone...
Blah blah who will you blame when Benedict Arnold is gone?

Blah blah who will you blame when Al Capone is gone?

Blah blah who will you blame when Richard Nixon is gone?
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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^they are not gone. 'YOU', still remember them for their evil doings.
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:15 PM
 
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Do spend all your time hunting for anything and everything that can be construed as negative about President Trump? You initiate many posts here, all something negative about President Trump. Do you have any interest in anything else besides your hatred for President Trump? When I see your name as the OP I skip it, but I made an exception to day just to see if you'd respond.
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Old 12-29-2020, 01:23 PM
 
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In my opinion, a VERY large part of the blame falls on US, (the citizens of this country), for continuing to allow Trump to rape us and the nation...


The Constitution gives the people the authority to REMOVE A GOVT FROM POWER if the need should ever arise...but its up to US, to actually take that step and do it. (that is where we have all failed), Too many people want 'someone else' to do the dirty work, (people dont want to take any personal risk), instead, they call on the FBI, or the Senate/Congress to get Trump in line. LOL
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Old 12-29-2020, 02:13 PM
 
Location: FL
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Here is something I wrote even before President Trump was elected:

"The problem with such a theory is twofold: one, a person may be wise in one area (here, real estate development), yet foolish in other areas. We have seen that Donald John Trump, while successful in his original field, has struggled to transfer his success to other fields. Indeed, it appears that, save for real estate, his biggest success is 'branding' his name, or allowing his name to be used on projects for a fee. If I recall, when Mr. Trump spoke of his wealth, he cited a good portion of his 10 billion, some 3.5 billion, as being his estimate of the value of his 'brand'.

Which brings up the second point: I think he has definitely hurt his 'branding' power.

Of course, when one enters politics, one must expect to have one's positions opposed by the opposition party. Such opposition may not, in and of itself, significantly damage the value of one's brand. Reasonable people may disagree with the person's position, yet still appreciate their honesty, values, etc.

I feel that Mr. Trump has failed in this respect (i.e., to protect his brand with the general public). He has, by his various statements, not only alienated those that identify themselves with the Democratic party, but many within the Republican party, as well as those that consider themselves 'independents'. Many question his basic values. Being a selfish, narcissistic person is not an attractive 'brand'.

True, he polls very well with the 'less educated' Americans. However, the less educated also tend to be (not always of course) less wealthy, and Mr. Trump's brand is targeted to the wealthy.

One example: Mr. Trump has been admirable, when he purchases or opens a golf course, to mandate that his property will not reject any applicant for membership based on race, religion, etc. However, the fees are expensive to join. When once asked about his high membership fees, and whether they prevent the less wealthy from joining, Mr. Trump said something like "To gain membership in my golf course one must have money". Nothing wrong with that.

Except, he has alienated many of the wealthy that have the means to join his golf courses, stay in his hotels, purchase condominiums, etc. His 'base' lack the means to support Mr. Trump financially.

Thus, if Mr. Trump decided to run for president (which he had hinted at doing for years and years) to satisfy his ego, he may have been successful in the short term, but I fear the damage to his 'brand' has been very much damaged."

https://www.city-data.com/forum/elec...lection-2.html

In other places, prior to the election, I voiced other concerns that Mr. Trump would ruin his 'brand', which was really his stock in trade, and that his children would inherit.

Of course, in my original post I thought he was hurting his brand by even running and with the odd things he would say. Now, after four years of being President, I fear he has succeeded in ruining his brand. He will still have the more fringe element support him in the years to come, but I imagine he faces significant legal and financial problems in the next two years.
Well said and I agree.
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Old 12-29-2020, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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For Trump's hotel money issues? Is there somebody else you think should be blamed for this? This has exactly what to do with Biden?

Trump is the only one I've ever heard of that built and bankrupted a casino. Even the casino's on the Indian reservations have no trouble raking in millions.
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Old 12-29-2020, 02:53 PM
 
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Trump is the only one I've ever heard of that built and bankrupted a casino. Even the casino's on the Indian reservations have no trouble raking in millions.
It's his super power. That and grifting.
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Old 12-29-2020, 03:57 PM
 
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From that piece: "Lawsuits brought by nonprofit groups and attorneys general in Washington and Maryland claiming that Mr. Trump had violated the so-called emoluments clause of the Constitution were never resolved during his term and now face potential dismissal once he is out of power."

It's unfortunate that the abuse of presidential power & the abuse of the presidency as a center of personal gain & profit remain unresolved.

Personally, I would pardon the current grifter however resolve the abuse of power, & violations of domestic & foreign emoluments clauses going forward.
Pardon Trump but say no one else can do what Trump has done? No. Trump has spent his life getting special treatment. No more.

Trump likes to recite the story “you knew I was a snake when you took me in”. How prophetic that has been.
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Old 12-29-2020, 06:26 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Cida
A lot of the legal problems Trump is facing involve money. This is about hotel money. And a reminder of how he used his office to rake in payments to keep improperly enriching himself.

Is Trump the only DC politician to do what you claim?

Have there been others?

Is it a matter of how much they steal? If yes, what is your limit?

Did you attack politicians from both sides for doing it, or just 1 side?

Do you only attack pols you don't like?


One of the traits of a good leader is to lead by example.

Regards
Gemstone1
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand you. Yes, I'll attack politicians from both sides, but for the last few years, Trump keeping us busy.

And, yes, there have been other politicians, but never has a president done this, so flagrantly, so illegally, so shamelessly, and so relentlessly - and on such a scale.
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