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I was not speaking of what the bible says, I was speaking of the beliefs that peoples have for which ever religion they believe in. Do you believe that the free exercise of religion, no matter what religion, should no longer be protected by the First Amendment?
When a business is offering itself up as a place of public accommodation, no, religion should not be entering into the transaction, and the business should not be allowed to discriminate on the basis of race, sex, or sexual orientation.
Google "Liberty Ridge Farm" for an example of a business being stupid enough to try to skirt NY's public accommodation laws.
Interesting that folk who say they have a spiritual conviction about denying LGBT from preaching on the pulpit, believe they can openly discriminate in a place of business or public accommodation!
When a business is offering itself up as a place of public accommodation, no, religion should not be entering into the transaction, and the business should not be allowed to discriminate on the basis of race, sex, or sexual orientation.
I have addressed this previously, won't bother with it again. Local or State laws do not usurp Constitutional law.
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Google "Liberty Ridge Farm" for an example of a business being stupid enough to try to skirt NY's public accommodation laws.
From a google link. "Currently, those lined up on both sides of the issue are awaiting a Supreme Court decision, which could come as early as June, on the case of a Denver-area baker who, due to his religious beliefs, refused to bake a cake for a same-sex marriage.
The Colorado Civil Rights Commission ruled that Jack Phillips, operator of the Masterpiece Cake Shop, was violating the rights of the two men who wanted a wedding cake.
Phillips went to civil court, arguing that the decision infringed on his First Amendment rights of free speech and religion.
The decision in the case, which was argued before the Supreme Court in 2017, should have a bearing on all these issues, said McGuire."
When a business is offering itself up as a place of public accommodation, no, religion should not be entering into the transaction, and the business should not be allowed to discriminate on the basis of race, sex, or sexual orientation.
Google "Liberty Ridge Farm" for an example of a business being stupid enough to try to skirt NY's public accommodation laws.
Hmm, I don't find it stupid at all. I find it an extremely rational way to deal with their dilemma of a law that violates their religious belief. That's not to say I agree with their beliefs, but I respect the way they are being open and honest about what they believe.
From their website:
"At Liberty Ridge Farm, our deeply held religious belief is that marriage is the union of one man and one woman, and the Farm is operated with the purpose of strengthening and promoting marriage. In furtherance of this purpose and to honor and promote our moral and religious beliefs, we donate a portion of our business proceeds to organizations that promote strong marriages such as the Family Research Council,”
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Well, if they are truly practicing based on their interpretation of Christian beliefs in which you cannot serve those seeking an illegitimate marriage, all the power to them. But I can't imagine they get enough business to survive.
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Originally Posted by V8 Vega
The Bible is clear, homosexuality is a sin.
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I agree. This would be like marrying a couple that has had acted on temptation (be it sex, a kiss, or whatever) prior to marriage, or a women who is not a virgin, or someone who is divorced. It's okay to deny sinners based on your beliefs.
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ABSOLUTELY I DO. I think every religion should be allowed to gather, and practice their beliefs, if their practices are legal. Nothing illegal, like the sacrificing of children etc.
But once you own a business, that's open to the pubic, you're open to the public. You can't decide who to serve and who not to serve.
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How so?
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You left out "as defined by the Christian religion" from my original post.
Most brides are not virgins these days.
Yep, if this business is denying service due to the illegitimacy of a gay marriage, they are truly hypocrites.
But there is no law against hypocrisy.
By the way, Jesus hated hypocrites.
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