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Old 12-30-2020, 04:24 PM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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You’ve really outdone yourself with your usual silly flapdoodle here.

Canada is white AF.
Out of reps. Now that right there is funny AF!
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Old 12-30-2020, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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What should one do?

A] those that are aware of it, recognize it, and don't try and deflect, defend or ignore it

B] teach the facts in elementary, junior and high schools.

C] right those wrongs that can be righted, including land

D] lobby State and Federal governments to acknowledge and address the situation
E) Continue to ignore meddling Canadians who can’t live in the now.
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Old 12-30-2020, 04:27 PM
 
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It means (the need for) education and change, as a whole, i.e. survival rather than old-school thinking of the past. Often, hate is nothing more than a fear of what one doesn't understand.
It's not hatred to oppose division rather than unity. Common values, common interests a shared language and culture are an important glue to keep a society together.
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Old 12-30-2020, 04:29 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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What should one do?

A] those that are aware of it, recognize it, and don't try and deflect, defend or ignore it

B] teach the facts in elementary, junior and high schools.

C] right those wrongs that can be righted, including land

D] lobby State and Federal governments to acknowledge and address the situation
I think A and B are great, but C and D? How far back do you go to right those wrongs?

I get what you are saying, and any living person who has lived through such a tragedy should surely be compensated, but why their ancestors?

I have a claim against the Roman Empire, Ancient Egypt, Spain, etc. I mean, where does it stop? The neanderthals hit my ancestor over the head with a club and took all of his stuff. Do I have a claim against them?

And who chooses that arbitrary year, where compensation stops?
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Old 12-30-2020, 04:31 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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It's not hatred to oppose division rather than unity. Common values, common interests a shared language and culture are an important glue to keep a society together.
Point being, we can't go backwards. One need not have 'common values' in order to have absence of hate; the 'glue' is simple acceptance and education to stand strong as a country.
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Old 12-30-2020, 04:32 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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It means (the need for) education and change, as a whole, i.e. survival rather than old-school thinking of the past. Often, hate is nothing more than a fear of what one doesn't understand.
Just to be clear, I am not interested in any kind of change that makes any foreign country rich at the expense of the United States or harms Americans in general.
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Old 12-30-2020, 04:35 PM
 
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Point being, we can't go backwards. One need not have 'common values' in order to have absence of hate; the 'glue' is simple acceptance and education to stand strong as a country.
We have all that now. Not sure what the point is.
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Old 12-30-2020, 04:38 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Point being, we can't go backwards. One need not have 'common values' in order to have absence of hate; the 'glue' is simple acceptance and education to stand strong as a country.
How do you know?

I mean, do you have an example of another successful country with so many immigrants and 1st generation citizens from completely different backgrounds from the host country?
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Old 12-30-2020, 04:40 PM
 
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Point being, we can't go backwards. One need not have 'common values' in order to have absence of hate; the 'glue' is simple acceptance and education to stand strong as a country.
Who wants go backwards? Those same things apply today just as they did yesterday. Did you miss the part where I said that does not equate to hate? The glue is assimilating into our society not doing the opposite and standing out instead of blending in and trying to turn our country into the country they left behind. I couldn't care less what one does behind closed doors but join us out in mainstream. How about immigrants accepting us and educating themselves to our ways and practicing it? It's not up to us to learn their ways. My what a novel idea. Well I guess it is to a liberal.
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Old 12-30-2020, 04:50 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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Just to be clear, I am not interested in any kind of change that makes any foreign country rich at the expense of the United States or weakens Americans in general.
Your bias isn't allowing you to accept globalization, as a whole (which was my original point re: hate) i.e. fear of change from 1950's America. What you fail to see - there is no turning back technology or the acceleration of globalization, whether you make your lack of interest clear or not (no matter how many posts, lol).

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On the contrary, people very much understand the consequences of importing millions of lower class people from third world countries into the United States of America.
Case in point i.e. 'importing people' isn't a thing; it's simply an evidentiary phrase relative to hate/the thread.
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