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Old 01-02-2021, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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How did I learn about all of this past history if not through my schooling? So WTH is he talking about that we aren't acknowledging history? Those people are all dead now anyway including those in our government back then so WTH does the past have to do with those of us alive today? My ancestors didn't even come here till the early 1900's well past any conflicts with the Amerindians.

I seriously doubt that poster is a Canadian. He's probably one of those Reconquista loons.
He ain’t right. The more he blathers on here the more it becomes apparent.
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Old 01-02-2021, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Austin
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How did I learn about all of this past history if not through my schooling? So WTH is he talking about that we aren't acknowledging history? Those people are all dead now anyway including those in our government back then so WTH does the past have to do with those of us alive today? My ancestors didn't even come here till the early 1900's well past any conflicts with the Amerindians.

I seriously doubt that poster is a Canadian. He's probably one of those Reconquista loons.
Nah it's true ... he's a lousy canadian with no stake in our past present or future.
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Old 01-02-2021, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Different peoples had to do the same thing - whether it's the British, the Spanish, the Aztecs, the Romans, the Chinese among many others. They had to wipe people out in order to establish their dominions.
This is 100% true. Although "had to" implies they were forced. If I said "I had to kill my neighbor so I could take his house because he wasn't taking care of it", seems a bit crazy doesn't it?

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Maybe killing is not right in some moral sense during normal times. But it is what people have had to do to survive when faced with an enemy. Kill or be killed. Either you kill the savage or you end up getting scalped by him. You often have to choose one or the other.
This is a bit of a fallacy, but the basic logic isn't completely wrong. The Europeans didn't steal the native lands to defend themselves from the natives, but from each other.
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Old 01-02-2021, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Nah it's true ... he's a lousy canadian with no stake in our past present or future.
Seal denier.

I particularly enjoy how he tries a weak-knee defense that seal killing stopped thirty years ago (which is a lie) and yet he’s harassing Americans here for 150 year-old history.

Dude is light on reality.
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Old 01-02-2021, 12:44 PM
 
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Glorifying the 1950's (or pretending things haven't changed) isn't the answer; I'm certainly not 'demonizing' anything/anyone by accepting the reality (and effects) of technology - and education, for that matter.

That said, the thread isn't to debate globalization; rather, it's asking/addressing the current climate re: so much hate. It's clear the (lack of) acceptance to technology/globalization (and where we're headed), as a whole, is certainly part of that. So much so, in fact, many are riled/arguing it in the thread (rather than rationally discussing the thread topic in and of itself), which (more than) clearly demonstrates my point.
Where did I "glorify" the 50's? I said there were some good things about it just as any other decade. I also said the racism of the 50's was a negative. Did you miss that part or just ignore it?

You're demonizing those of who oppose the negative aspects of globalization by using the word hate. Why is that?

The so-called hate or objection today is mostly the differing political, society and cultural views. We are too far divided these days and one of the reasons is people like you who equate a differing view to "hate". You need to learn the difference between objection and hate but I doubt you'd even try.
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Old 01-02-2021, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Many here deny the genocide that happened. The question is why?
Serious question:


Blacks have committed hundreds of thousands of acts of hate against whites in America. Rape, murder, assault - most of it hate crimes. Natives did unspeakable horror to their fellow man before Europeans even got here. Some tribes welcomed Europeans, they were so afraid of their fellow Natives.


Why don't you demand they, as groups of people, collectively, feel guilty?


Why is it only whites as a group must be dehumanized by the likes of you and most Leftists today in America?
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Old 01-02-2021, 12:46 PM
 
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Nah it's true ... he's a lousy canadian with no stake in our past present or future.
No, I think I'm spot on. Why would any Canadian demonize the U.S. over a long ago past that had nothing to do with them anyway? That would be a Reconquista type. Don't be fooled.
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Old 01-02-2021, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Seal denier.

I particularly enjoy how he tries a weak-knee defense that seal killing stopped thirty years ago (which is a lie) and yet he’s harassing Americans here for 150 year-old history.

Dude is light on reality.
Apologizing for stuff that happened 150 yrs ago is contemptible. Anybody who does that is a spineless worm with no self respect. I don't expect the son of a WWII Nazi to apologize for the holocaust. The sins of the father are not handed down genetically to be the sins of the son. People like this oddly hectoring canadian need to be told where to get off.
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Old 01-02-2021, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Austin
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No, I think I'm spot on. Why would any Canadian demonize the U.S. over a long ago past that had nothing to do with them anyway? That would be a Reconquista type. Don't be fooled.
I happen to know he's a canadian. There's no point in arguing this. Go look at his post history. Hell, go ask him. Or don't ... he's like a vegan. How do you know who the vegan in the room is? Wait five minutes and they'll tell you.
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Old 01-02-2021, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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How did I learn about all of this past history if not through my schooling? So WTH is he talking about that we aren't acknowledging history? Those people are all dead now anyway including those in our government back then so WTH does the past have to do with those of us alive today? My ancestors didn't even come here till the early 1900's well past any conflicts with the Amerindians.

I seriously doubt that poster is a Canadian. He's probably one of those Reconquista loons.
Normstad is a Canadian - of German ancestry. I believe he was born in Germany. The country that systematically tried to wipe out an entire race of people and take over the world -- a genocide that ended a mere 75 years ago.
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