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Old 01-26-2021, 01:45 AM
 
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His daddy was a smart man.
Why you would want to defend this child abuse:

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My daddy use to tell me when I ever hoped for something, "hope in one hand, and s**t in the other, and see which hand gets full first".
So much for hope.
Is beyond me. I certainly hope you do not have any children. If you do, I hope they do not listen to you if you give them the same advice.
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Old 01-26-2021, 01:54 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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I have the same hope for every president. Coming off of Trump, who nearly brought this country to its knees, I hope the Biden administration can bring us back to a place of normalcy.
Oh, surely many feel the same.. it will happen. it will be entirely different, having a normal presidency after suffering for four years. It will be comforting knowing that those in charge are appropriately handling things for a change.
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Old 01-26-2021, 06:26 AM
 
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Wrong logic. If he succeeds, then it will hurt this country. I hope he fails because everything he wants to do is bad for America. I support this country and want this country to successful; not the temporary occupant of the White House.
Well, if we wanted this country to be successful...we've got the wrong guy running it now.
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Old 01-26-2021, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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I just don't understand how anything you posted relates to whether this nation was originally founded as a Constitutional Republic or not?
The term "Constitutional republic" implies that it depends on the CONSTITUTION, correct?

REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT. . . The fourth section of the fourth article of the constitution, directs that "the United States shall guaranty to every state in the Union a republican form of government." The form of government is to be guarantied, WHICH SUPPOSES A FORM ALREADY ESTABLISHED, and this is the republican form of government the United States have undertaken to protect.
- - - Bouvier’s Law Dictionary, 6th edition, 1856
. . .
The republican form existed BEFORE the USCON, thus it cannot be a “constitutional republic.â€
. . .
Can you now guess what the source and origin of the republican form is, if it was NOT the constitution?


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This has nothing to do what some people may think it is. Or what this country may have evolved into or what we are evolving into. I certainly do not like the direction we are headed that's for sure a "socialist democracy" if you will. Myself I call it an authoritarian socialist aristocracy ruled by oligarchs. We are indeed becoming subjects however that was never the founders intention. Unfortunately "we the people" are allowing our corrupt government and judiciary to get away it. Every time I hear the word Democracy I want to puke.
We're all victims of the world's greatest propaganda ministry.
You may need to read law - especially pre-1933 - to get a grasp of what happened in the covert socialist revolution of FDR and Co.


If you're annoyed at being a subject of corrupt and tyrannical government, you are correct - the Founders never intended that to happen.


Americans were sovereigns, and the government was their servant.
“... at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects, and have none to govern but themselves[.]â€
- - - Justice John Jay, Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 U.S. 2 Dall. 419 419 (1793)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremec...CR_0002_0419_Z
Sovereigns don't vote nor run for office - as public SERVANTS.
They're the sovereigns.



ZOUNDBITE

• IF you have Creator endowed rights that governments were instituted to secure, thank the Republican form of government.
• IF you have government privileges and mandatory civic duties that abrogate endowed rights, thank the (indirect) Democratic form of government.
• IF you have socialist obligations that abrogate your endowment, thank the voluntary socialist insecurity system.
• IF you are in perpetual debt to usurers, thank them for letting you regrow your skin after skinning you alive.
= = = = =
SOURCES AND ORIGINS:
<> Republican form of government : Declaration of Independence; wherein all men are born equal before the law (none higher) and have Creator endowed rights that governments cannot tax, regulate nor infringe.
(*all state constitutions repeat the promises of the Declaration, making it the foundation of all American law.)

<> Indirect democratic form of government : Compacts and Constitutions, which impose duties and obligations in exchange for political and civil liberties (privileges). Citizenship is voluntary consent. No one can be "born a citizen" in the united States of America without violating the republican form, wherein all men have Creator endowed rights that governments were instituted to secure. (Citizens are presumed to have surrendered all endowments. This has been part of the law since day one.)

<> National socialism is based on your voluntary participation in FICA / Social Security. No law compels participation. No law punishes non participants. (Coincidentally, American non-citizen / non-resident free inhabitants are barred from applying or participating.)

<> Signature cards wherein one agrees to abide by the Rules of the Bank (and its U.S. Governor - the Secy of Treasury) imposes the obligations that are not covered under national socialism nor submission to the glorious State.



Geo.Wash. Sums it up nicely in 1783 - long before the constitution
. . .
“It may be laid down, as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every citizen who enjoys the protection of a free government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency.â€
- - - George Washington; "Sentiments on a Peace Establishment" in a letter to Alexander Hamilton (2 May 1783); published in The Writings of George Washington (1938), edited by John C. Fitzpatrick, Vol. 26, p. 289.
[... Every citizen ... owes a portion of his property ... and services in defense ... in the militia ... from 18 to 50 years of age... ]

IN SHORT,
The American citizen has no endowed right to life, nor liberty, nor absolute ownership because, as a subject, he can be ordered to train, fight, and die, on command (militia duty), and was obligated to give up a portion of his property (qualified ownership of estate) (via ad valorem taxes, etc). .. by his consent to be governed.
Shut up, sit down, pay and obey.


CONSENT OF THE CITIZENRY
“ Our theory of government and governmental powers is wholly at variance with that urged by appellant herein. The rights of the individual are not derived from governmental agencies, either municipal, state or federal, or even from the Constitution. They exist inherently in every man, by endowment of the Creator, and are merely reaffirmed in the Constitution, and restricted only to the extent that they have been VOLUNTARILY SURRENDERED BY THE CITIZENSHIP to the agencies of government. The people's rights are not derived from the government, but the government's authority comes from the people. The Constitution but states again these rights already existing, and when legislative encroachment by the nation, state, or municipality invade these original and permanent rights, it is the duty of the courts to so declare, and to afford the necessary relief. The fewer restrictions that surround the individual liberties of the citizen, except those for the preservation of the public health, safety, and morals, the more contented the people and the more successful the democracy.â€
- - - City of Dallas v Mitchell, 245 S.W. 944
https://casetext.com/case/city-of-dallas-v-mitchell-1
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The rights of the individual / national / non-citizen / inhabitant / non-resident are not derived from government, but are Creator endowed.
But once consent to be governed is granted, via citizenship, that endowment has been surrendered / waived by the citizenry. Why? Because mandatory civic duties abrogate endowed natural rights, natural and personal liberty, absolute ownership of private property, etc, etc.



IN CONTRAST
"What I do say is that no man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. I say this is the leading principle, the sheet-anchor of American republicanism. Our Declaration of Independence says: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
- - - Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois (1854)
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Abraham_lincoln

As Lincoln reminds us, under the republican form, promised by the USCON, described by the Declaration of Independence, NO MAN (nor American government) is good enough to govern you without your consent. Without your consent, all that government is authorized to do is secure endowed (sacred) rights (prosecute trespass; adjudicate disputes; defend against enemies, foreign or domestic). And no endowed right can be subject to taxation, regulation or infringement. Why? Taxing a right would allow the government to diminish it by ever greater taxation.


No constitutional "democratic" government, majority vote, or elected official, can trespass, tax, or infringe upon endowed rights. Period.
" PERSONAL LIBERTY, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum , Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987.
UNDER THE REPUBLICAN FORM...
"All men" are born equal (none higher) and have Creator endowed rights, that governments were instituted to secure. I repeat: such governments can do nothing more than adjudicate disputes, prosecute criminals, and defend against all enemies, foreign or domestic... EXCEPT BY CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED. Asserting citizenship is one of the ways to consent.
Those who have not consented (or withdrew consent due to fraud used to induce consent), have their fundamental / inherent / inalienable / sacred natural rights, natural and personal liberties, absolute ownership of private property, inherent powers, privileges and immunities (not related to consent).



The world may be filled with many 'republics' and 'constitutional republics' but there is only one nation with a REPUBLICAN FORM and its people can't even define what it is.
That is a stunning victory for the world's greatest propaganda ministry.
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Old 01-26-2021, 12:01 PM
 
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I don't think "Mr. hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun" will even serve his full term. Harris will take over at some point as planned.
By who? Donors?
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Old 01-26-2021, 12:04 PM
 
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I doubt it will happen but for this country I hope it is true.

I said the same about Obama and was disappointed.

Can we all get together and at least HOPE he is great?
Sorry, nothing to hang our hopes of hat on in that regard. As evidenced by his accumulating lies and just listening to the south bend mayor and susan rice, makes a conscious person nauseous.

Smoke and mirrors. With a media propaganda machine in full bloom, there can be no USA. No free press, no country!

Already elected dems are calling for revenge against all trump supporters and the sham impeachment. Speaking of which,Biden is doing is best Pontius Pilate and washing his hands in the death of Trump's future.

So says his spokesperson, Biden is no longer in the senate and will allow them to go about their business. If that isn't a rerun of Christ's condemnation, then nothing is.

Unify the country when all opposition is silenced.

Hope is all in a different direction than proposed in the OP.

Elephant in the room is, who will be Harris's VP when Biden is removed for inability to perform his duties.
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Old 01-26-2021, 12:08 PM
 
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Trump was the best president of the modern era. Better than Reagan.

But let's go to the ultimate establishment swamp monster instead lol
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:53 AM
 
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I can hope, but Biden promised us that fighting the pandemic would be his number one priority. And yet he already his showing his true colors by now saying his number one priority is reversing everything Trump did, opening the floodgates to illegal immigrants which is absurd in a pandemic. He can talk about unity, but actions speak louder than words.
Biden didn't do so hot controlling the pandemic.
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:57 AM
 
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I doubt it will happen but for this country I hope it is true.

I said the same about Obama and was disappointed.

Can we all get together and at least HOPE he is great?
Miss Obama yet?
Biden is twice the disaster you should have seen by now.
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Old 08-17-2021, 04:52 AM
 
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Well he cant be any worse than that idiot that just left. I think Joe will do fine.
And exactly what is dementia joe doing, that is remotely fine? This country is a mess.
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