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Old 02-08-2021, 05:35 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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...Getting judges and bureaucrats to change the rules and laws is cheating.
Except it's not...

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Old 02-08-2021, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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They're lying, of course. It's not very complicated.
Of course.
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Old 02-08-2021, 06:21 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Of course.
Everyone lies except for Trump. Duh.

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Old 02-08-2021, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Except it's not...

YES it IS, and you're NOT cool.

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Old 02-08-2021, 06:30 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Except it's not...
Yes, it is. It's unconstitutional. Never should have been allowed. Only State Legislatures can prescribe/change state laws for federal elections, NOT those in the State Executive or Judicial branches.
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Old 02-08-2021, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Yes, it is. It's unconstitutional. Never should have been allowed. Only State Legislatures can prescribe/change state laws for federal elections, NOT those in the State Executive or Judicial branches.
The republicans never tried to stop it as it was happening. This is the point Belling in Milwaukee was making for months, going all the way back to September when he saw it happening and saw the republican legislature sitting on their hands doing nothing. The republicans only have themselves to blame for their complacency. Being proactive vs reactive, something I got him to bring up on his show... reactive people in society end up being society's losers. You want to get ahead in life, be proactive.

North Dakota is trying to be proactive right now by passing legalization of marijuana on their own terms so they can avoid an activist measure that has things like allowing home growing of plants in it... South Dakota and Noem on the other hand waited for the amendment to pass because they didn't expect it to pass then sued and want to try to kill it after the fact. I hope they fail. If you want something done, be proactive, not reactive.

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/anti...allot-measure/

Democrats are more proactive when it comes to elections. They use get out the vote efforts, did massive voter harvesting, and are willing to apply the rules unevenly and be unfair so their side gets an advantage. It's something Republicans can never seem to get themselves to do in large numbers. Democrats are the Tom Brady's of politics. You want to win, you have to play as dirty as your opponent sometimes. You have to confront them when they unevenly apply the rules and call them out when they violate state law, not sit there and do nothing, which is what the republicans did... at least in Wisconsin. I can't vouch for other states. Too bad, so sad for them... and for all of us...

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Old 02-08-2021, 06:53 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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The republicans never tried to stop it as it was happening. This is the point Belling in Milwaukee was making for months, going all the way back to September when he saw it happening and saw the republican legislature sitting on their hands doing nothing. The republicans only have themselves to blame for their complacency. Being proactive vs reactive, something I got him to bring up on his show... reactive people in society end up being society's losers. You want to get ahead in life, be proactive.
It's not unconstitutional until a court rules it so, as well.

So far, none of the state Supreme Courts have seen anything illegal. We'll see if the SCOTUS decides to weigh in, and if they do - what their thoughts on the matter are.

I'm fine with that.
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Old 02-08-2021, 06:56 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The republicans never tried to stop it as it was happening.
Yes, they did. The lawsuits were rejected by the courts because the courts said the claim wasn't yet ripe as the election had not yet been held. OK... wait until after the election when the harm has actually occurred? The courts then say that it's too late, the election already happened. That's BS dance-around abdication of judges' sworn oath to support and defend the US Constitution.
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Old 02-08-2021, 06:58 AM
 
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Yes, they did. The lawsuits were rejected by the courts because the courts said the claim wasn't yet ripe as the election had not yet been held. OK... wait until after the election when the harm has actually occurred? The courts then say that it's too late, the election already happened. That's BS dance-around abdication of judges' sworn oath to support and defend the US Constitution.
Yep. They were too chicken **** to take it on. They didn't want to be the ones responsible for overturning the sham election.
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Old 02-08-2021, 07:27 AM
 
Location: CA
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Can you help me? We've used mail in ballots since the civil war. I want to learn where it's actually been proven to be a problem. What court cases prove there's fraud with them?
I can help you…..

Right, the MILITARY has always used mail-in ballots. A very valid reason.

But, mail-in ballots also appear the preferred method of DEAD VOTERS:
8,021 – DEAD voters in Pennsylvania, pg 8
1,506 – DEAD voters in Nevada, pg 7
10,315 – DEAD voters in Georgia, pg 5

And then there’s this: (PA) “State Representative Frank Ryan, along with other members of the State Legislature, found that over 202,000 more ballots were cast than actual registered voters in the state.”
(Ref - The Navarro Report, volume III, by Dr. Peter K. Navarro, PDF page 10)
https://navarroreport.com/#342e5f15-...8-9051a9397783

IMO, mail-in ballots should ONLY be used for limited and legitimate reasons, unless you are ok with YOUR VOTE being diluted or negated by things like the above.
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