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Old 03-11-2021, 12:08 PM
 
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And big pharma wants everyone to be taking their poison prescription drugs that cure nothing....how ironic.
There must be some medication that is "right for you". Americans must ALL be taking something. Back in my late 50's had to go for a work physical. Questionnaire listed pages (not vaccines), asking what you were taking. Put line through all and wrote N/A. Young 19 year old next to me did same. When NP looked at our questionnaires, she started SCREAMING at us for doing this. "What is WRONG with you people". We MUST take meds? Even a teenager? I said to the NA we are fine. What is wrong with YOU? Teenager's Mom laughed when I said this. NP threw our charts on the floor.

Last month went to the ER to cut off my wedding band which jeweler was unable to do. Doctor asked what my Pre existing conditions were. To cut off a ring? When I told her NOTHING, she said she had never met a person my age (72) without any pre-existing conditions. Did not want to bother telling her I have not had my own doctor since 1984 giving birth nor any preventative tests done.

Is is now somehow UnAmerican to not go to doctors, or take meds, let alone every vaccine available?

Edit: For what it's worth I am a Democrat but I part company with them on health issues. I quit working at 62 and went without insurance until I aged into Medicare when the ACA went into effect. I was not going to spend an extra $700/month for husband's insurance to cover me. Good TIMING. lol I would have paid the non-compliance fee over that.

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Old 03-11-2021, 12:47 PM
 
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It is, by definition, a vaccine.

"Alternative and natural medicine practitioners don’t recommend it" because they want to sell you supplements.
The "vaccine" was put through by Emergency Use Authorization, which lacks the rigorous and time-tested vaccine approvals. The vaccine for anthrax was rushed through the same way with terrible results.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/healt...ory/index.html


As far as using supplements, they are excellent for prevention. I use high-quality, American manufactured supplements and would use a pharmaceutical medication as a last resort under only dire circumstances. People who eat healthy food, exercise, take vitamin D, zinc and K2, are helping themselves prevent Covid infection, and if they do become infected cases are mild and quickly recovered.



Pharmaceutical companies have created so many harmful medications in recent times that they have lawsuits pending on a good percentage of them. They do harm. They also have not worked on updating an antibiotic, since these have become ineffective because of overuse, because that would not be profitable.



People need to make up their own minds on this vaccine. Good luck.
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:36 PM
 
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The "vaccine" was put through by Emergency Use Authorization, which lacks the rigorous and time-tested vaccine approvals. The vaccine for anthrax was rushed through the same way with terrible results.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/healt...ory/index.html


As far as using supplements, they are excellent for prevention. I use high-quality, American manufactured supplements and would use a pharmaceutical medication as a last resort under only dire circumstances. People who eat healthy food, exercise, take vitamin D, zinc and K2, are helping themselves prevent Covid infection, and if they do become infected cases are mild and quickly recovered.



Pharmaceutical companies have created so many harmful medications in recent times that they have lawsuits pending on a good percentage of them. They do harm. They also have not worked on updating an antibiotic, since these have become ineffective because of overuse, because that would not be profitable.



People need to make up their own minds on this vaccine. Good luck.
This vaccine is only approved for Emergency Use under FDA approval. As such even the Military cannot enforce vaccinations for soldiers. Some 30% are refusing which is probably the same percentage of Civilian population which the Pentagon is admitting.

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Old 03-11-2021, 03:43 PM
 
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Every time I keep hearing that vaccine hesitants and refusers need to be Educated, all I keep hearing in my brain is that old song from Pink Floyd for the Wall, "We don't need no Education". " Teachers (Scientists?) leave us alone".
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:50 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ic_145376.html

Article talks about how censorship of Covid treatments the "experts" don't promote is killing people. There's a dangerous censorship of information about the Wuhan virus.

"...My story is not unique. Physicians across the country are fighting a pernicious campaign to denigrate all potential treatments not first championed by the authorities, and others have faced retaliation for speaking up. Sadly, too many of our institutions are using the pandemic as a pretext to centralize control over the practice of medicine, persecuting and canceling doctors who follow their clinical judgment and expertise.

Actually “following the science” means listening to practitioners and considering the entirety and diversity of clinical studies. That’s exactly what my colleagues and I have done. We won’t be cowed. We will speak up for our patients and do what’s right."
Indeed. Any doctor worth the oath he/she took can see what is going on.

I'm not one for doctors at all, but the few I've talked to in passing understand what is going on. Those will be the doctors I go to if I need to go. No way am I going to a doctor who is in the government's back pocket. At this point, I think the only doctors who are NOT in lockstep with the feds are those who only accept cash payment for their services. There are a few around--at least for now until the government nationalizes the system. Then the doctors either become agents of government mandates/policies, find new professions, move to another nation, or work under the table.
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Every time I keep hearing that vaccine hesitants and refusers need to be Educated, all I keep hearing in my brain is that old song from Pink Floyd for the Wall, "We don't need no Education". " Teachers (Scientists?) leave us alone".
You might want to look at what "We don't need no Education" actually means.

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There is a double negative. It means we do need education.
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Old 03-11-2021, 04:26 PM
 
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You might want to look at what "We don't need no Education" actually means.

Spoiler
There is a double negative. It means we do need education.
The song is called, “Another Brick in the Wall”. From Roger Waters who wrote it,
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The song is meant to be a rebellion against errant government, against people who have power over you, who are wrong. Then it absolutely demanded that you rebel against that."
https://www.songfacts.com/facts/pink...e-wall-part-ii
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Old 03-11-2021, 04:29 PM
 
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The song is called, “Another Brick in the Wall”. From Roger Waters who wrote it,

https://www.songfacts.com/facts/pink...e-wall-part-ii
That poster was too hung up on grammar to catch that meaning. If he/she spoke another language that actually uses double negatives (to indicate a negative), it would cause horrible nightmares and profuse night sweats, I'm sure.
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Old 03-11-2021, 07:56 PM
 
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And big pharma wants everyone to be taking their poison prescription drugs that cure nothing....how ironic.
Indeed.... Its what fills thier pockets....Dont be taking that away now..
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Old 03-11-2021, 09:03 PM
 
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https://www.ntd.com/39-year-old-heal...ign=2021-03-11

39-Year-Old Healthy Utah Mother Dies After Taking Second Dose of Moderna Vaccine
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