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Old 03-12-2021, 03:20 AM
 
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As I stated in a previous thread most of them not all are glorified “Bums”!


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For some reason we all feel the need to continue to tiptoe around one of the most awful, lazy, and selfish groups in America: left-wing public teachers unions and the teachers who support them.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/10...at-allies-are/

 
Old 03-12-2021, 09:59 AM
 
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I'm not defending the union policies here - but you are both taking it to extremes.


The school policies were not about protecting children - but instead, the adults they come in contact with after they get home. There is no question that contagious diseases of all types are ferried around the countryside by school-children - it's an efficient mechanism - and to put some thought into the consequences is reasonable. What if kids carried ebola, but didn't show symptoms? Would you think school's still a good idea?



Meantime - there is no question some children - and some adults - will die of COVID because of school. I think the past year has proven that pretty clearly. Is it your goal to never have school until all contagious and deadly diseases are entirely eradicated from earth? Of course not.



The goal - for both cases - is the same: To reduce the risk of overloading any local health care system. This goal has not changed. The goal is NOT to prevent all deaths by any measure possible. Nope. This is not my opinion - it's the stated policy of every health agency, everywhere, world-wide: Stopping death, even for school children, is NOT the primary goal, or we'd stop it for flu and pneumonia too. It's just about resources.



Once the resources aren't at risk, you are free to die - or avoid death - as "extreme" as you wish. Go to school. Don't go to school. Up to you. But for now (well, not so much now...) - it's about resources. It's that simple, and always has been.
 
Old 03-12-2021, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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That's an unfortunate statement to the families of children who have died from Covid, as well as the teachers who have died, and the many more who suffered.
Which is sad, but EXTREMELY small in number. The vast majority are the very old and already dying. That's where the numbers come from. They die WITH Covid, not from it.
 
Old 03-12-2021, 11:07 AM
 
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Some looking into where and how medical researchers and those who teach doctors deal with the schooling of their own kids would shed some light on the subject.
 
Old 03-12-2021, 02:11 PM
 
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If you stated it in a previous, thread, why not just post in that thread instead of starting yet another one to state the same thing?
 
Old 03-12-2021, 02:28 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Which is sad, but EXTREMELY small in number. The vast majority are the very old and already dying. That's where the numbers come from. They die WITH Covid, not from it.
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A statement you fail to support with any facts.

And define "EXRTREMELY small in number"

Would you define it that way if it were your spouse, your parent, your child?
 
Old 03-12-2021, 02:46 PM
 
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Its going on in Corporate America too believe me . White collar "professionals" laying around at home for a year citing COVID plagues (even after vaccinations) so they can continue sit around at home and continue doing nothing and be held accountable to nothing and no one and half the time you can't even get in touch or find these people and many offline after 5-6 years. Hell every friday I see most of these people offline work messenger by noon. Without fail . LOL. People are bilking the system all over the place. Not just teachers
 
Old 03-12-2021, 03:09 PM
 
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A statement you fail to support with any facts.

And define "EXRTREMELY small in number"

Would you define it that way if it were your spouse, your parent, your child?

More kids die from the flu during one flu season than died from covid in a ten month period. Kids do have the option to do online even if others have the opportunity to do in person.
 
Old 03-12-2021, 03:17 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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A statement you fail to support with any facts.

And define "EXRTREMELY small in number"

Would you define it that way if it were your spouse, your parent, your child?
As of March 3, 2021 a total of 208 children between the ages of 0-17 have died of Covid in theUnited States.

According to Education Weekly as of February 1, 2021 the estimate is that at least 707 retired and active teachers, coaches, custodians and other staff members have died of Covid-19. Did you catch that “retired” part? Yeah, they aren’t catching the disease from schools if they are retired.

The research:
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In the fall of 2020, 11 school districts in North Carolina with more than 90 000 students and staff were open for in-person education for 9 weeks.6 During this time, within-school transmissions were very rare (32 infections acquired in schools; 773 community-acquired infections) and there were no cases of student-to-staff transmission. Similarly, in a report released by CDC on January 26, 2021, with data from 17 K-12 schools in rural Wisconsin with high mask adherence (4876 students and 654 staff), COVID-19 incidence was lower in schools than in the community.7 During 13 weeks in the fall of 2020, there were 191 COVID-19 cases in staff and students, with only 7 of these cases determined to result from in-school transmission.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2775875

I lost two brothers and a nephew to Covid, and yes, it was heartbreaking. However, the schools NEED to open back up.
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Old 03-12-2021, 08:16 PM
 
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Schools are slowly opening back up (just like the rest of the country).
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