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Old 04-06-2021, 08:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
We will, as we will have to, acquiesce in one manner or another. Those who didn't like masks still had to wear one or socially distance if their store or place of business required it. It's just the state of society now. Again, not much you nor I can do about any of it.
What you mean is that you will acquiesce. Not everyone will. I'm getting to the end of my rope. I don't know exactly what I will do as far as the vaccine goes. Maybe I can only put sand in the gears of these plans, but then I plan on being that sand. Make it difficult for them. If more people did that instead of just complaining but aquiescing, they would back down.
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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HIPAA does apply, you have no right to reveal any vaccination to anyone, which would result in discrimination and is why many states have already banned such nonsense. Sorry for the breaking news.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/06/polit...rts/index.html

You are not a medical professional and it’s none of your business of who is vaccinated. Period.
HIPAA applies to parties besides yourself who have your health information. In order for those parties - doctors, pharmacists, hospitals, your local health department, whatever - to release your information you must give them permission to do so.

HIPAA does not apply to any information that you disclose yourself.

I could ask if you are vaccinated. You do not have to answer. All of us who work in DH's office are vaccinated and we voluntarily tell clients that.

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There are a plethora of apps being developed as "vaccine passports". 16 of them are funded by the Fed gov.
I gave you one example.

In fact both Cuomo and IBM were questioned on how they obtain your vaccine data and neither would answer the question. Both parties just kept repeating "blockchain". No one outside of Cuomo's office and the IBM developers knows how they get your covid vaccine info. But just "trust them".

https://theintercept.com/2021/03/24/...bm-blockchain/
If they get it from any source other than you they will have to have your permission, because HIPAA.

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You might want to read the thread.

Plenty of information in here.

Or you could keep ignoring it and ask more questions that have already been answered.
I have read it. The question I asked has not been answered.

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HIPAA does apply. Here's one app's HIPAA policy and consent form:

https://www.passporthealthusa.com/hipaa-policy/
Passport Health is a travel medicine service. The app it has is for general health info for travelers, not specifically for the coronavirus vaccine. The HIPAA policy applies to Passport Health sharing info they have with other parties, just like any other medical clinic. It does not apply to the patient choosing to share that info.

https://www.passporthealthusa.com/passport-health-app/
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:14 PM
 
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Nobody is “forcing” you. The proof are the thousands of unvaccinated people. However those who took the vaccine are having priority and are getting benefits compared to those who didn’t. Vaccination is not just for the individual, but the entire society. Herd immunity is based on that. Still, nobody is putting a knee on your neck if you decline.
Having priority and getting benefits = creatopm of a 2 tier society = putting a knee on the neck.
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:24 PM
 
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The Patriot Act is so huge that it had to have been written prior to 9/11 in order for it to have been passed so fast. They had it written looking for a way to implement it.
A little off topic, but yes, absolutely.
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:24 PM
 
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The Covid pandemic is their crisis that they will not let go to waste.
Look up Totalitarian Technocracy.
The Great Reset
The vaccine passport is being developed at warp speed to take advantage of the crisis.
It's much more than just "who takes the vaccine" and "who doesn't."
Find out for yourself.
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:24 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Nobody is “forcing” you. The proof are the thousands of unvaccinated people. However those who took the vaccine are having priority and are getting benefits compared to those who didn’t. Vaccination is not just for the individual, but the entire society. Herd immunity is based on that. Still, nobody is putting a knee on your neck if you decline.
Did it ever occur to you for one second that not everyone can get the vaccine yet ?
NJ is still only doing 55+.

You are acting as if everyone has had access and the only ones left are the ones that refuse.
Only 17% of Americans have had all the vaccine shots (either 1 or 2).

What about the other 83% ? Kids aren't even eligible yet.

So you got your shot, change the world for you and to heck with everyone else ? Is that your attitude ?
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:27 PM
 
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I had never heard of this Naomi Wolf. But she has been a anti vaxx conspiracy person for at least 6 years. She has pushed all sorts of crazy stuff like ISIS was not that bad and the beheading videos were faked. She is a bit of a nutcase.

The insane conspiracy theories of Naomi Wolf

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/5/690983...iracy-theories


She got punked by a porn star she thought was a doctor:

Anti-Vaxxer Naomi Wolf Posted Fake Quote by Fake Doctor... But Real Adult Film Star

https://www.edgemedianetwork.com/story.php?303218
Just because someone got it wrong in one or more issues does NOT mean they are wrong about everything. I personally, don't agree with A LOT of her political positions.

No matter who comes out against these vaccine passports, someone will dig up something they said or did in the past to discredit them. And of course they'll resort to name calling in order to shut down any further discussion (anti vaxxer, racist, sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, etc.).
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:30 PM
 
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The ACLU has spoken up about the dangers of vaccine passports.
https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-te...ine-passports/

I think they are not seeing all of the dangers of requiring vaccines but at least they spoke up about some things.
Their position didn't go far enough, IMO, but at least it's directionally correct.

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Old 04-06-2021, 08:33 PM
 
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The ACLU has spoken up about the dangers of vaccine passports.
https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-te...ine-passports/

I think they are not seeing all of the dangers of requiring vaccines but at least they spoke up about some things.
Their position didn't go far enough, IMO but at least it's directionally correct.

I like what they said here:

When...COVID comes to resemble other dangerous diseases where there are occasional flareups but little spread, such as measles, the need for a COVID passport will seem much less urgent. Nobody is demanding we provide proof of measles vaccination everywhere we go. And in the limited circumstances where such proof is required (school enrollment, some medical jobs, and some overseas travel), it’s far from clear that the existing system of paper documents is somehow deeply broken and in need of fixing. That’s especially true given that creating a passport system would be a herculean task.
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:34 PM
 
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"Any proposal for vaccine credentials must be primarily paper-based, decentralized, and protect privacy.."


Bless their hearts if they think that would happen. Maybe in an alternate universe. Like you, I appreciate that they are at least speaking up, though.
That's what I thought, too. Their position against it is half hearted, IMO.
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