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Anyone can report anything to VAERS and there's no indication that there's any pattern of deaths that would mean the vaccine is causing them.
But even if all 2,249 deaths did stem from the vaccine (which is extremely unlikely), that is out of 108 million doses. So it's about 0.002% of shots that have possibly caused a problem.
When you have a group of 108 million people who all do something, it's inevitable that some will die within 48 hours. Take 108 million people who ate a carrot. Or who called their uncle. Or who hung a picture on a wall. Or who went to Walmart. Or who parked crooked in the driveway. Or who opened a window. Chances are 100% that some will die within the next two days simply because of the number of people we're talking about.
So yes, I am all for informed choices. I'm at exponentially greater risk driving my car to the pharmacy to get my vaccine than I am getting the shot itself. I'll still drive there, though.
And you are also at exponentially greater risk driving than you are of dying from covid with a 97 - 99% recovery rate depending on who's figures you look at.
But if the get COVID-19 they can infect someone who is vulnerable. The selfishness of people is amazing.
The opposite of selfish is selfless.
You say that not getting vaccinated is selfish. Does that mean those who did are selfless? They got the vaccine with no consideration for themselves in mind? I don't believe that.
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa
Those deaths are baloney. There is no verification of VAERS. Anti-vaxxers can just log in and report a death. It's like a Yelp review. Complete nonsense. There are NO proven cases of death that was caused by any covid vaccine. None.
My daughter is a VAERS death ID. Her death was not "baloney". She was not baloney, she was a beautiful little baby with chubby cheeks, dark hair & blue eyes. She never woke up again, after the first time she fell asleep after being vaccinated.
As much as I hate vaccines I have never been the one to come on these threads & call the lives lost to covid; "baloney".
And you are also at exponentially greater risk driving than you are of dying from covid with a 97 - 99% recovery rate depending on who's figures you look at.
There are about 38,000 car accident fatalities each year. How many COVID deaths were there, again? Do you think that over one to three percent of people die in car accidents each year?
Maybe the issue among those confused about the dangers of the virus and the dangers of the vaccine is not a lack of scientific understanding but math illiteracy?
Good post, but remember, you may be dealing with people who don't believe in facts that don't align with their agenda. I can guarantee that the OP will never come back and admit that your points are correct.
Exactly. This is too many people’s MO’s in this forum. They just drop these bombs of lies and never return. Not only is it lying, it’s immoral and unethical as this false information will be taken as truth by someone who will be influenced to make poor health decisions as well passing on the disinformation to others, indirectly leading to more death and suffering.
Yes, and you may get killed in an auto accident and die, you may get cancer and die, you may get killed in a random act of violence, etc., etc.
And, to the bold -- about 30% of people who who are infected don't have any symptoms at all -- so you are almost certainly incorrect will you say they "will" get flu-like symptoms.
(This has been very well documented for months, so I am surprised that you don't know this.)
P.S. I also think it is premature to say at this point "eventually you will get infected". Maybe that will prove to be true, but I don't think that everyone will be infected as they might die from other causes before then -- and who knows what further tests into some people having some kind of natural (genetic) immunity might reveal?
That’s why we wear seatbelts in cars, go to the doctor for regular preventative care and screenings, and avoid interacting or engaging with crazy people. Those actions all mitigate risk, just like vaccines.
I guess you missed the link in the OP? It's sourced. Check it out. I thought that was the topic of discussion. It'd be nice if you'd come prepared.
You're this --><-- close to getting blocked. You never, ever add any value to a discussion, other than entertainment value. Even that's wearing thin, though.
I guess you missed the link in the OP? It's sourced. Check it out. I thought that was the topic of discussion. It'd be nice if you'd come prepared.
You're this --><-- close to getting blocked. You never, ever add any value to a discussion, other than entertainment value. Even that's wearing thin, though.
I already laughed at that link. Should I do it again? Lol.
Lol. Yes, since somebody told you that, it must be true.
If you don't believe the Covid numbers look at excess deaths for 2020. I'll wait.
"Yes, since somebody told you that, it must be true. "
We are NOT talking about how many on the left, including YOU follow this to a T on whatever the alphabet TV and liberal papers like teh ny slime, wash, post etc, Yes, since somebody told you that, it must be true.
Unlike YOU I actually KNOW people who work in the field and they KNOW FIRST HAND what is going on at where they work
You are NOT there, yet because it does NOT fit your bias, you want to ACT like you know what is going on. Being you made the claim, You MUST KNOW the 2 place they work.
You MUST KNOW because you say it is not true and you have 1st hand knowledge.
PROVIDE IT!
"Put up or SHUT up", as they say.
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