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Old 04-15-2021, 07:21 AM
 
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No doubt. However if he complied none of this would have happened.
How often have we seen noncompliance from members after a hockey game, Soccer match,in public.. heck on a beach and rarely have we seen any of them shot!

The compliance bit goes out the window as the shootings are not equally proportional to the vast amounts of unruly persons.

I've watch videos as well witnessed utterly disrespectful people pulled over and/or berate officers without once tugging on a weapon.

A judge hops out of his car and charges the officer's vehicle that pulled him over pointing and shouting..not one tase nor pulled weapon. Approaching angrily and hostile.

We're poking the bear and one day..we'll regret all the unjustified BS as the consequences will be severe.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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It seems the righties have a foggy memory as to the role of police officers. There job is to arrest subjects while it is the courts job to administer punishment. Many here seem fine with allowing police officers to do both. Sorry but there job is not to determine if your life is worthy or not. There is a price to pay when your mistake takes a person life.
That's what they were doing, genius. Arresting him. He was resisting. Opened the door for a very, very bad mistake to be made.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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It seems the righties have a foggy memory as to the role of police officers. There job is to arrest subjects while it is the courts job to administer punishment. Many here seem fine with allowing police officers to do both. Sorry but there job is not to determine if your life is worthy or not. There is a price to pay when your mistake takes a person life.
Any jury will side with a 26 year veteran and 1 mistake, over a career criminal with many mistakes any day of the week.

1. Wright failed to renew his tags
2. Wright failed to meet the terms of his parole, leading to a warrant
3. Wright failed to comply with officers when under arrest

He does just one of those thing, and he's not in a body bag.

I've seen countless people run from police on body cams, most end up dead.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:24 AM
 
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Yes, he's to blame for his own demise.

Being a criminal isn't good for your health. It's only good for massive paydays when white liberals send your family millions of dollar for gofundme for your funeral.

We all recognize that American police suck, so why do people continue to commit crime and resist arrest? At some point, Darwinism is in play.
When a family of a person sues police officers for causing the person's death by using excessive force, it's not 'only good for massive paydays'.

It's often because it's their only recourse when the police officers are not even charged with a crime. Not being charged is likely when the Medical Examiner’s Office conceals police wrongdoing, & made even more likely when the ME claims the person's manner of death is 'accidental' or, bizarrely, 'natural'.

Please see an example here:

Maryland family sues after Black man died in police custody

https://apnews.com/article/race-and-...18df19dedf82be

It's worth noting Dr. Fowler is the ME paid to testify by the Defense in the current Derek Chauvin case.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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When a family of a person sues police officers for causing the person's death by using excessive force, it's not 'only good for massive paydays'.
George Floyd's family begs to differ.

On what planet do you think George Floyd was ever capable of amassing $40+ million (civil suit and gofundme)? A man accused of using counterfeit money.

What about Wright? He was charged with robbery for $800, now he's worth $700K all of a sudden?

These are massive paydays. And the slimy "civil rights attorney" Benjamin Crump is living in a mansion for "taking on" these cases.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:31 AM
 
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It seems the righties have a foggy memory as to the role of police officers. There job is to arrest subjects while it is the courts job to administer punishment. Many here seem fine with allowing police officers to do both. Sorry but there job is not to determine if your life is worthy or not. There is a price to pay when your mistake takes a person life.
It's a form of mass hysteria, or cultural insanity, to not even consider conducting an unbiased investigation into these matters.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:40 AM
 
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George Floyd's family begs to differ.

On what planet do you think George Floyd was ever capable of amassing $40+ million (civil suit and gofundme)? A man accused of using counterfeit money.

What about Wright? He was charged with robbery for $800, now he's worth $700K all of a sudden?

These are massive paydays. And the slimy "civil rights attorney" Benjamin Crump is living in a mansion for "taking on" these cases.
The police officers involved in George Floyd's death were charged, & Derek Chauvin's case is ongoing. The fact that they were even charged is a rare occurrence in itself.

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Phil Stinson, a criminologist at Bowling Green State University, told the Associated Press last week that fewer than 140 police officers have been charged with murder or manslaughter since 2005 despite thousands of fatal police shootings. Only seven cops were convicted of murder during that time, Stinson said.
The Police Reform Movement Transcends Derek Chauvin’s Trial

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...chauvins-trial
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:46 AM
 
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How often have we seen noncompliance from members after a hockey game, Soccer match,in public.. heck on a beach and rarely have we seen any of them shot!

The compliance bit goes out the window as the shootings are not equally proportional to the vast amounts of unruly persons.

I've watch videos as well witnessed utterly disrespectful people pulled over and/or berate officers without once tugging on a weapon.

A judge hops out of his car and charges the officer's vehicle that pulled him over pointing and shouting..not one tase nor pulled weapon. Approaching angrily and hostile.

We're poking the bear and one day..we'll regret all the unjustified BS as the consequences will be severe.
The shootings are rare. You're making it sound like what happened to Wright happens multiple times daily or something, and that's what BLM is convincing everyone is the case.

It's a lie. The bear is in the streets giving the cops the finger and hitting CNN in the head with water bottles. They are the street criminals who already kill far more people every year than the police do.

Bad cops need to be punished, but street criminals are a bigger problem in the US than cops, and they are going to have open season the next few years. Only when things get really ugly in cities will any sense return.
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Old 04-15-2021, 08:07 AM
 
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The shootings are rare. You're making it sound like what happened to Wright happens multiple times daily or something, and that's what BLM is convincing everyone is the case.

It's a lie. The bear is in the streets giving the cops the finger and hitting CNN in the head with water bottles. They are the street criminals who already kill far more people every year than the police do.

Bad cops need to be punished, but street criminals are a bigger problem in the US than cops, and they are going to have open season the next few years. Only when things get really ugly in cities will any sense return.
How would anyone know "the shootings are rare" when we still do not have a single national reporting system that chronicles & documents every police-involved death in this country?

Part of the problem is no one is seemingly willing to admit when mistakes are made.

This problem is compounded when there's a cover-up to mask the 'why did this happen?'

If the many interrelated factors are denied, how can we as a people, any of us, learn from our mistakes?

Quoting again from the Brennan Center piece:

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It is remarkable (and a sign of progress) that Chauvin was charged with murder at all. So many other police officers are not so charged, even in similar circumstances. And it would be even more remarkable if Chauvin were convicted at all.

Phil Stinson, a criminologist at Bowling Green State University, told the Associated Press last week that fewer than 140 police officers have been charged with murder or manslaughter since 2005 despite thousands of fatal police shootings. Only seven cops were convicted of murder during that time, Stinson said.
The Police Reform Movement Transcends Derek Chauvin’s Trial

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...chauvins-trial
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Old 04-15-2021, 08:09 AM
 
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How would anyone know "the shootings are rare" when we still do not have a single national reporting system that chronicles & documents every police-involved death in this country?

Part of the problem is no one is seemingly willing to admit when mistakes are made.

This problem is compounded when there's a cover-up to mask the 'why did this happen?"

If the many interrelated factors are denied, how can we as a people learn from our mistakes?


Quoting again from the Brennan Center piece:



The Police Reform Movement Transcends Derek Chauvin’s Trial

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...chauvins-trial
They admitted a mistake was made and the officer was charged.

Derek Chauvin is on trial for a life in prison.

What else do you want?

Do the people who are burning down city blocks know those things?
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