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Nope 0 welfare for anybody or any corporation. Time to take the needle out of America's vain and put america back to work again.
MAWA
Taking welfare away won't make people suddenly get jobs. Many people on some form of welfare work. Single moms for instance. There are many single mothers out there who work, and still get food stamps or live in public housing.
And then consider this. Brazil has had one of the highest violent crime rates in the world. Brazil has been this way for a long time. Brazil didn't have welfare for a long time. If you didn't work, you didn't eat. Guess what happened when many people couldn't work: They turned to crime. And the police in Brazil have often done some brutal things. It didn't stop criminals in the favelas from killing, selling drugs, etc. If we took welfare out, not everyone's going to go and work.
Consider who commits alot of violent crime. Young men. Most young men generally don't qualify for most forms of welfare. What do many men do when they don't have work? Go out and sell drugs, commit all kinds of crimes.
And then consider that many people don't have jobs because few people would want to hire them. How many people really want to hire felons? And you can say "well that's their fault for committing crimes" all you want. The fact is, taking away welfare isn't going to make someone fresh out of prison get a job. Go look up some of the recidivism rates.
This is what I see. Technology is changed to where we can manufacture more, with fewer people. More steel, more automobiles, more stuff, can be created with fewer people. However, consider that many manufacturers want cheap labor. This is why so much manufacturing has gone to small towns or has gone overseas. Fewer people are needed for certain jobs, and many people don't have the skills or the entrepreneurship to do for themselves. What do we do about that?
We don't need to MAWA. We need to Make America Create Work Again.
1)White women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action and welfare.
2) Black people are being blamed for taking jobs away from "more deserving" white people but its just not true.
3) So you think nobody who works in gov't or in any position of power is racist?
4) In this century[/i], black farmers were discriminated against so horribly many of them lost their farms and livelihoods. June Provost's story is not a one off. It was systemic racism.
5) Look up the mortality rates of black and brown women during childbirth, in this century. They are 2 to 3 times more likely to die than white women...and that number has nothing to do with how much the woman makes. It is systemic racism.
6) Racial profiling is still happening. We all know the war on drugs disproportionately affects black people even though there has never been any evidence to suggest black people are involved with drugs (buying or selling) at higher rates than white people. Yet blacks are almost 3 times more likely to be arrested for drug offenses. This is systemic and institutionalized racism.
7) Blacks who were legally prevented from purchasing homes by the Federal Housing Administration(FHA) in the 40s, 50s and well into the 1960s never saw the equity growth that comes with homeownership.
1) In absolute terms, yes. In relative terms, no. Blacks wouldn't support it overwhelmingly if it was actually benefiting white people.
2) "Deserve" is subjective. It is well-documented that blacks are often favored for employment and for college admissions, to fill quotas, or for fear of being sued for discrimination, and other political reasons.
3) Everyone is racist. The Federal government is disproportionately black.
4) Is June Provost's story actually an example of System Racism? He says the reason he got out of the sugar cane business was because he had a contract with "MA Patout" to exclusively mill his sugarcane for 14 years. MA Patout claims June Provost broke the contract by taking some of his sugarcane to a different mill(from which they claim they have pictures as proof). June Provost has sued MA Patout for breach of contract, that case has been ongoing since 2018.
5) The infant-mortality rate is lower for central and south American women than for white women. Cuban women have a significantly lower mortality rate than white women. The highest mortality rate among Hispanics is Puerto Ricans, but they also have the highest black admixture.
6) They had stop-and-frisk in New York City. It wasn't so much racial-profiling as it was geographic profiling. It focused on high-crime neighborhoods. This felt like racial-profiling only because high-crime neighborhoods are pretty much always black. There are more police where this is more crime, and where there are more police, there are more interactions with the police. The more interactions with the police, the more drugs will be found, and thus the more people charged with drug offenses. A lot of people have demanded fewer cops in minority neighborhoods to reduce the number of interactions with the police. But the people who actually live in these high-crime areas tend to want more police, not less. Which is why the move has instead been to legalize drugs.
7) I think the FHA was only involved in red-lining. Racial-covenants were private contracts or municipal regulations. The Federal government never made any racial requirements. As for red-lining, this again had nothing to do with race. The banks made maps of areas that were deemed "safe investments". And this correlated almost entirely with family incomes and the age of the home, not race. Old homes, especially in low-income/high-crime areas were red-lined as "bad investments". Which meant you could not get an FHA loan in the red-lined areas. That doesn't mean no one could buy houses there, but only that the Federal government wouldn't guarantee those loans. You would instead have to go to a traditional lender, or pay cash. FHA loans are a pretty small percentage of the overall market.
Lastly, blacks could and did get FHA loans for houses in non-redlined areas. But these houses were generally more expensive. Black homeownership has actually been falling in recent decades. Though there has been a recent uptick.
1) You said "Black people are steadily gaining ground". No they're not. The white suicide rate has gone up much more then the black suicide rate both in relative and absolute terms.
2) You said, "The White suicide rate is concentrated mainly among men 45 and older". There is little difference between the 15-24, 25-44, and 45-64 rate. The only reason the majority of suicides are among white men 45 and over, is that the average age of a white person in the United States is 57. Whereas the average age for blacks is 27. For Hispanics it is 11.
3) You said, "Younger White people aren't as likely to commit suicide. Black suicide rates are growing faster than any other group these days, particularly among Black YOUTHS."
For white men, ages 10-14 the suicide rate has risen 90% since 1997. Ages 15-24 has risen 42%, 25-44 is up 42%, and 45-65 is up 63%. For white women, ages 10-14 the suicide rate has risen 280%. Ages 15-24 has risen 88%, 25-44 up 53%, and 45-65 is up 83%.
In fact, white suicide rates are higher in every age category, whereas black suicide rates above 65 have declined since 1997.
Secondly, white suicide rates have increased at a much higher rate than blacks. Since 1999, the black male suicide rate has increased by 8.5%, the white male rate 40%. For females it was 65% for blacks, and 68% for whites.
After reading your link, I saw this line, "Black males, 5 to 11 years, are more likely to die by suicide compared to their White peers". These numbers have to be incredibly small. Based on the CDC report, there were 63 suicides for blacks aged 10-14. I'm assuming the 5-11 age category is probably in the single-digits.
Based on the CDC page, here are the suicide rate increases by age/race for young people.
Ages 10-14, black male +100%, white male +90%.
Ages 15-24, black male +14%, white male 42%.
Ages 10-14, black female +270%, white female +280%.
Ages 15-24, black female +125%, white female +88%.
The 42% white male increase for ages 15-24 is larger in absolute terms than all others combined. But there has certainly been some concern in recent years about the uptick in suicide rates among the very young, especially females.
In 1999, males had a suicide rate of 17.8 to the female rate of 4.0. Or about 4.45 to 1.
In 2017, males had a suicide rate of 22.4 to the female rate of 6.1. Or about 3.67 to 1.
For whites the ratios were 4.7 female to 20.2 male(4.3 to 1)... And 7.9 female to 28.2 male(3.56 to 1).
For blacks the ratios were 1.7 female to 10.5 male(6.17 to 1)... And 2.8 female to 11.4 male(4 to 1).
The suicide gender gap has narrowed dramatically over the last 20 years. For blacks even more than whites(although the white gap is still higher). Female suicide rates are up in every age group, especially for those under 25. With black females under 25 showing a larger increase, although still a much lower rate than white females.
So what is happening with women? And especially young black women? What is happening to Native-Americans? And what is happening to white men? Why are they killing themselves at ever higher rates?
Last edited by Redshadowz; 05-02-2021 at 02:04 PM..
It’s a shame that those of us whose families came here after the 60s have to deal with mess this country refused to properly address for hundreds of years. But yet many will try to call this a “Christian†nation. Pure blasphemy.
It took force, and even there, there were those who were not ready. There was no intention of addressing such issues.
When it was apparent that geography could render slavery redundant, the southern states wanted secession so they could keep on having slavery.
When Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, he later said that Blacks and Whites could never live in America together. He proposed sending them to Central America.
Any attempts to deal with the issues were met with violence. Reconstruction is a good example. When there were attempts to get Black people to vote, groups like the KKK would react with violence.
In the nadir of race relations, the South adopted Jim Crow laws. In the rest of America, there were other ways to discriminate against Blacks. Sundown laws, racial restrictive covenants, exclusion from unions, etc.
For a long time, there was not much of a plan. It was never intended for Black people to be part of mainstream American society. It took force to make things happen.
If anything, black people owe white people for what has been done for them.
Inventing basketball (countless blacks have gotten free-ride college educations, not to mention wealthy beyond their wildest dreams), baseball, football, electric guitars and synthesizers. Whites have been the big purchasers of black jazz, rock, rap music.
Whites sent hundreds of thousands to their deaths to end slavery. White societies in the north where jobs were created, blacks flocked to.
And I could go on and on.
In this world though, the opposite of what should be happening, happens.
If anything, black people owe white people for what has been done for them.
Inventing basketball (countless blacks have gotten free-ride college educations, not to mention wealthy beyond their wildest dreams), baseball, football, electric guitars and synthesizers. Whites have been the big purchasers of black jazz, rock, rap music.
Whites sent hundreds of thousands to their deaths to end slavery. White societies in the north where jobs were created, blacks flocked to.
And I could go on and on.
In this world though, the opposite of what should be happening, happens.
Brazil didn't have welfare for a long time. What did many people do when they couldn't get jobs? Commit alot of crimes. Brazil has long had one some high violent crime rates. It's not just the short term, I see this happening for the long term. I look to Brazil (before 2000) as an example.
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