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Old 08-21-2009, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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I read the post you were responding to, and you really twisted their words around. Regardless, you personally have no idea what prevented Northwoods from happening, and are stating hearsay as fact. .

Don't you understand? ALL the Joint Chiefs SIGNED ON to do this! They were all willing to sign their names to the document in order to start a war over this false flag operation.


YouTube - Operation Northwoods
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Over There
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Please provide a link to where OBL says he did it.

I already provided a youtube link showing otherwise.
Go back and read I already DID!!!

Two as a matter of fact.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Over There
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Just for for you Apples.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:28 PM
 
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Don't you understand? ALL the Joint Chiefs SIGNED ON to do this! They were all willing to sign their names to the document in order to start a war over this false flag operation.


YouTube - Operation Northwoods
Don't YOU understand? That has nothing to do with the Bush administration? Just because they both held the same positions, doesn't mean they are all alike and capable of the same things! It would be the same thing as posting evidence that another countries leaders would do what you are insinuating. They are just different entities.

And again, you weren't there and don't know. All the youtube videos in the world aren't going to change that, all your arguments are pure speculation.
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:40 PM
 
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I read the post you were responding to, and you really twisted their words around. Regardless, you personally have no idea what prevented Northwoods from happening, and are stating hearsay as fact. Now if you want to make an actual point about the WTC, go right ahead, but just keep it on topic and try to make a post that you can actually back up with something more than conspiracy theories or vaguely worded lies.
Who else besides the president cound have stopped it? He is the command-in-chief. If he went along with it, it would have been implemented.
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:48 PM
 
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I was in the north tower on 9/11. Worked there for 19 years with engineers who were there for the original construction, who maintained the buildings, and then who worked on the pile for the nine/ten months after the attacks.

Guess what. NO evidence of explosives in the debris. The structural failure could be explained in terms simple enough for a bright kid to understand. It's really not rocket science.

A cute trick the troofers like to pull is "you are just swallowing the government's story". The only way their story will work is to have you think the government controlled the cleanup, analysis, etc. Well, the government was at the site in form of FEMA and the FBI, but it's not as though they swooped down and closed it off and no one else was in there. There were four major contractors, all those ironworkers and construction folks from all over the country, engineers from different non-federal agencies, and a whole lot of other folks, 40,000 in total. So maybe we aren't listening to "the government", but to the people who were actually there.

Oddly, enough, the truthers themselves are the ones who accept what the conspiracy sites say without question. If they did their own research, they would find how many errors are in those sites--not even meaning deep dark secret stuff, but basic information that any moron could verify as accurate or inaccurate, but they just believe it without verification.

Doesn't anyone find it a little telling that almost every conspiracy website sells a CD or has a place where you can click to make a "donation"?
I don't think as a construction worker, your opinion carries the same weight as a physics professor, architect or engineer.

9/11 Truth: Thermite & The Case for Controlled Demolition on Yahoo! Video (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/182627/960424 - broken link)
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:49 PM
 
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Who else besides the president cound have stopped it? He is the command-in-chief. If he went along with it, it would have been implemented.
See how you're not posting any solid evidence? Which proves everything you're saying is pure speculation? You don't know what happened, all you have are some youtube videos.

And are you only ignoring the actual argument about 9/11 because you dug yourself in a hole and can't get out? Or are you admitting I'm right?
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:21 PM
 
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See how you're not posting any solid evidence? Which proves everything you're saying is pure speculation? You don't know what happened, all you have are some youtube videos.

And are you only ignoring the actual argument about 9/11 because you dug yourself in a hole and can't get out? Or are you admitting I'm right?
Give me a break - hundreds of architects and engineers dispute the non-sensical government theory as well as the scientific community, and you think that 'you are right'? LOL! What are YOUR credentials?
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:16 AM
 
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Give me a break - hundreds of architects and engineers dispute the non-sensical government theory as well as the scientific community, and you think that 'you are right'? LOL! What are YOUR credentials?
Show me where I said the government gave a good explanation. At all. You're making straw man arguments left and right because you got caught. None of what you have said indicates Bush was in any way a logical suspect. Understood? Good.
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:13 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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I don't think as a construction worker, your opinion carries the same weight as a physics professor, architect or engineer.

9/11 Truth: Thermite & The Case for Controlled Demolition on Yahoo! Video (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/182627/960424 - broken link)
I don't dismiss anything as a possibility, given the deception practiced in the Bush administration and by many others throughout history.

But help me understand the plan you are suggesting here. Why use controlled demolition as well as airliners flying into the building? Did they think the damage and death caused by the crashes insufficient to stir enough anger to advance the neocon agenda? Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't quite get the motivation for controlled demolition.
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