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Old 05-17-2021, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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It would be nice not be robbed at gunpoint in the first place but if you get money back good for you.

They'll only use it to kill a brown baby in Mogadishu or SWAT a farmer for selling fresh milk to his neighbor.

 
Old 05-17-2021, 03:44 PM
 
Location: moved
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Just wait when the federal government goes insolvent (it’s going to happen) and these lifelong dependents don’t get their checks. Reference the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Funny that you mention that... this reminds of Soviet policy. In the good old days, childless adults of reproductive age were charged a surtax, or "Childlessness Fee". Perhaps modern America is moving in that direction?

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I've always said the tax credits should go to those who don't burden society with children.
Now there's an idea! Pay people a reward for vasectomy/tubal ligation. Pay an extra reward to those who did so, prior to having any children.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 04:56 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Republicans: no money to children who are born! If you can't afford them, don't have them! But abortion is bad!
Democrats! money to children who are born! But abortion is great and a woman's right!


The world has always been opposed to Christianity, Jesus, and life. Only the American Solidarity Party is the moral one right now. Repubs and Dems are immoral hypocrites.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Funny that you mention that... this reminds of Soviet policy. In the good old days, childless adults of reproductive age were charged a surtax, or "Childlessness Fee". Perhaps modern America is moving in that direction?



Now there's an idea! Pay people a reward for vasectomy/tubal ligation. Pay an extra reward to those who did so, prior to having any children.
Bingo
 
Old 05-17-2021, 05:09 PM
 
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If the government is going to mandate that every pregnancy be carried to term (as the Supreme Court may do in the fall) it certainly makes sense for the government to support the children women are legally obligated to bear.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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If the government is going to mandate that every pregnancy be carried to term (as the Supreme Court may do in the fall) it certainly makes sense for the government to support the children women are legally obligated to bear.
Nah, they deserve nothing. Nobody’s responsible for their self inflicted problems. Folks that don’t want kids simply need to pay more attention in health class and/or learn how babies are made and prevent pregnancy from happening.

Maybe they get 1 mulligan. After that, suck it up buttercup.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 05:16 PM
 
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Headline of link below:

Child Tax Credit Expansion Kicks In July 15 With Monthly Payments to Families

Excerpts from this link https://www.wsj.com/articles/monthly...15-11621249203 (my italics):

Tens of millions of households will receive up to $250 a month per child between age 6 and 17 and up to $300 per child under age 6, based on their ages at the end of 2021. The payments will be made on the 15th of every month, unless that date falls on a holiday or weekend, the Treasury Department said Monday.

The credit isn’t just larger. Congress made two other changes that effectively convert the credit into a near-universal child allowance. First, it made the credit fully refundable, which means that the entire amount can go to households that don’t make enough money to pay income taxes. Before, $1,400 of the $2,000 credit was refundable.

In addition, Congress ordered the IRS to begin regular payments of the credit, turning the lump-sum refunds during tax season into a routine benefit for 2021. Parents will get half of the credit’s full value over the course of the second half of 2021, shrinking the tax refund they would otherwise get in early 2022.


Democrats have hailed the credit expansion as a historic poverty-fighting effort. President Biden has proposed extending the expanded credit through 2025, while some congressional Democrats have called for making the new rules permanent.
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When will this enforced and involuntary generosity end?

If the Republicans don't take back the Congress in 2022, then I truly feel and hope that there actually WILL be some kind of revolt!

This is how the democrats are trying to create a ONE PARTY DICTATORSHIP by BUYING VOTES.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 05:19 PM
 
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If the government is going to mandate that every pregnancy be carried to term (as the Supreme Court may do in the fall) it certainly makes sense for the government to support the children women are legally obligated to bear.

Your conclusion does not follow from your premise. Anyone who creates a pregnancy should be compelled to support that baby until it can support itself. It is called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Anyone who follows the science knows abortion is murder.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 05:20 PM
 
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If only the money was all spent on kids. You know 50% of it will be spent on things that have nothing to do with raising children.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 05:20 PM
 
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People should be just as outraged about billionaires who pay almost no income taxes, corporations that pay no income taxes - they are on welfare more than a struggling family.

Among those that paid no income taxes:

Archer Daniels Midland, FedEx, Nike, Dish Network...over 50 paid no income taxes - that's welfare.
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