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Private businesses had to conform to government mandates over the last 14 months. Anyone who was in favor of that is not pro private business rights.
They are still privately run institutions.
"Private businesses had to conform to government mandates over the last 14 months" You are changing the topic. Government wasn't forcing businesses to make people get the vaccine.
Private businesses were mandated during the past year because people did not have the choice to get vaccinated. That I agree with. Its the same as smoking. I think the banning of smoking indoors was a good thing because not all of those exposed to 2nd hand smoke had a choice in the manner. Its a matter of the ability for people to make personal choices.
People did not have a choice over the past year on whether or not they protect themselves from covid... so mandates protect those people... until now...
People did not have a choice over the past year on whether or not they protect themselves from covid... so mandates protect those people... until now...
People have a choice to go to restaurants and bars.
I'm starting to view COVID in a different light these days. IF the CDC were really concerned about the safety of Americans, wouldn't they want to shine a spotlight on diseases that are caused by smoking, drinking and sugar consumption? Deaths from these three categories FAR EXCEED deaths related to COVID....by a country mile.
Why aren't cigarettes, booze and sugary foods banned or regulated if they are killing Americans?
Hate to say it if they wanted it they should been prioritized for the vax. Part of the problem instead of distributing some to local doctors with the policy prefences doctors couldn't triage their patients in the beginning. They should've polled doctors with vague surveys like how patients with diabetes, overweight etc. Then distribute them a limited supply of the vax or told them where their patients could go. Same for what ever treatments available.
I hate this talking out of both sides of your mouth.
You're suddenly pro business when it comes firing employees for not vaccinating, but didn't give a rats a$$ when government stepped in and closed them during COVID, and then required them to mandate masks and social distancing.
No...I am not talking both sides of my mouth.
One is a right of private business. However, the right of businesses stops short when it impacts the rights of individuals. Individuals who got sick and died (prior to COVID vaccines) had no personal choice in the manner.
I have a right to smoke. That is my personal choice. However, I do not have the right to expose others to my 2nd hand smoke. So I do agree the ban of smoking indoors.... to protect the right to choice for those in the establishment. My right does not supersede the right of another.
By your argument, all laws preventing an individual from doing anything they want even if it impacts another person is a violation... that is illogical. Similarly, claiming pro private business rights does not mean no laws governing how they run business.
"Private businesses had to conform to government mandates over the last 14 months" You are changing the topic. Government wasn't forcing businesses to make people get the vaccine.
Private businesses were mandated during the past year because people did not have the choice to get vaccinated. That I agree with. Its the same as smoking. I think the banning of smoking indoors was a good thing because not all of those exposed to 2nd hand smoke had a choice in the manner. Its a matter of the ability for people to make personal choices.
People did not have a choice over the past year on whether or not they protect themselves from covid... so mandates protect those people... until now...
Well that's some revisionist history right there.
I'm old enough to remember "15 days to slow the spread".
I'm old enough to remember "15 days to slow the spread".
14 months ago.... vaccinations for COVID was not available to everyone. So not everyone had a choice on whether or not to protect themselves with vaccinations. Today, we have availability... I say reopen and lift all mandates.. Everyone makes a choice; risk getting infected or get vaccinated.
"15 days to slow the spread" did not provide choices for individuals to make (no vaccine available) and was intended to slow the hospitalizations that were impacting the hospitals. So I'm not sure why that means "revisionist" nor has anything to do with my comment/post.
14 months ago.... vaccinations for COVID was not available to everyone. So not everyone had a choice on whether or not to protect themselves with vaccinations. Today, we have availability... I say reopen and lift all mandates.. Everyone makes a choice; risk getting infected or get vaccinated.
Well good ... then I guess we agree that there should be no mandates to require a vaccination to participate - whether it be schools, businesses, employment, concerts and travel.
"Private businesses had to conform to government mandates over the last 14 months" You are changing the topic. Government wasn't forcing businesses to make people get the vaccine.
Private businesses were mandated during the past year because people did not have the choice to get vaccinated. That I agree with. Its the same as smoking. I think the banning of smoking indoors was a good thing because not all of those exposed to 2nd hand smoke had a choice in the manner. Its a matter of the ability for people to make personal choices.
People did not have a choice over the past year on whether or not they protect themselves from covid... so mandates protect those people... until now...
Thank you for clarifying that you are not pro private business rights.
Well good ... then I guess we agree that there should be no mandates to require a vaccination to participate - whether it be schools, businesses, employment, concerts and travel.
I meant lift all mandates by government.... remember the context was around government mandating on private businesses.
For all private business matters, it really is up to them to decide how to run their business. I surmise they will not get customers if they require vaccinations and proof.... they will go under fairly quickly. So I doubt any of them will require vaccinations to patrons. As for their own employees... again.. its up to them... but I would think it would limit access to the pool of talent good workers in the market.
But yeh... I think everyone has a choice to make (risk it or get vaccinated). I'm all for lifting as much of the government intervention regarding COVID at this time.
Thank you for clarifying that you are not pro private business rights.
Only because you don't agree.... but it doesn't make it so.
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