Portland already has more than 3 times the number of homicides in all of 2013, Minneapolis doubles the 2009 total.

[doc1]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

Lets compare them to conservative cities of comparable size:
Jacksonville = 54
Fort Worth = 44
Oklahoma City = 33
Fresno = 34

Hmm, I’m not seeing much improvement here….

Does that make the citizens of Portland and Minneapolis sleep better at night?

Portland already has more than 3 times the number of homicides in all of 2013, Minneapolis doubles the 2009 total.

So it's not true?

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by doc1

Does that make the citizens of Portland and Minneapolis sleep better at night?



So it's not true?

The OP clearly has a political axe to grind here. My response simply points to the fact that Republican run cities have comparable murder rates. Crime is up across the country now and most experts point to the pandemic as the largest contributing factor to this. Meanwhile, common sense would lead me to conclude that the political affiliation of a city’s leadership is largely irrelevant with regards to crime data.

Minneapolis has had more homicides in the last two years than it had in 2009. This is true. What was the composition of city leadership in 2009 you may ask? Answer = all democrats.

By the way. I sleep fine at night, within Minneapolis city limits.

[k350]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

They are all headed by Republican mayors.

So, Republican equals conservative now?

When a Republican was elected in Jacksonville in 2015, replacing a Democrat, all of a sudden all 100% of Jacksonville became conservative?

[James Bond 007]

Originally Posted by lovecrowds

Portland and Minneapolis are just a few of many Democratic cities that are in absolute shambles morally.

In 2013, when you're noting Portland homicides were much better, it was run by democrats.

In 2009, when you're noting Minneapolis homicides were much better, it was run by democrats.

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by James Bond 007

In 2013, when you're noting Portland homicides were much better, it was run by democrats.

In 2009, when you're noting Minneapolis homicides were much better, it was run by democrats.

Yeah. It’s a shame that both cities are “in absolute shambles morally.”

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by k350

So, Republican equals conservative now?

When a Republican was elected in Jacksonville in 2015, replacing a Democrat, all of a sudden all 100% of Jacksonville became conservative?

By your logic there are probably only a handful of tiny towns in the entire country that would meet your definition of “conservative.”

[RocketDawg]

Originally Posted by Somnifor

To put it in perspective the following are cities that are smaller or similar in size to Minneapolis (within the city limits) and their homicide totals so far this year. Cities are posted in order of city limit population:

Atlanta 62
Kansas City, MO 67
Miami 29
Minneapolis 38
Oakland 57
Tampa, FL 21
St Petersburg 17
Tulsa, OK 28
Wichita 23
New Orleans 94
Cleveland 62
Cincinnati 30
Saint Louis 82
Pittsburgh, PA 34
Baton Rouge 67
Little Rock, AR 28
Birmingham 48

Minneapolis could do better but it isn't the worst. WTF is going on in Baton Rouge? It isn't even a big city.

If you think Baton Rouge is bad, look at Jackson, Mississippi - population under 160,000 and about 1/4 the homicides of New York City last year. NYC is about 50 times the size.