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Old 06-15-2021, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Austin
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I think she is one of our posters who are paid by some dem group.
No. Say it ain't so! Not here. I don't believe a word of it.
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Old 06-16-2021, 05:09 AM
 
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Also, is this a video of Trump's wall or the much shorter ones that were built back in 2006? This is not a line of migrants waiting to climb over the good 30 ft. walls built by Trump but these pro-illegal, anti-wall people aren't known for their honesty anyway by pretending so. That's why Trump wanted to replace those types of walls because they could be breached. He managed to build hundreds of miles of replacement walls and no one has successfully scaled over or tunneled under them without serious injury to themselves (one illegal broke both legs trying) or the Border Patrol catching them.

I don't understand the harping about taking small portions of land from ranchers near the border either. Why not think of the common good? Do these ranchers really want illegal aliens, drug cartels and other criminals trespassing all over their property? That makes no sense at all. Do they want another 9/11 incident coming through our porous southern border? I don't think so! The former FBI director has said that those from known terrorist countries are slipping into our country right along with these so-called migrants. Can we stop them all with good physical barriers? Of course not, but the good walls where they are built have been 90% effective. That's not good enough to build them?
" He managed to build hundreds of miles of replacement walls and no one has successfully scaled over or tunneled under them without serious injury to themselves (one illegal broke both legs trying) or the Border Patrol catching them."

The left media NEVER reports this, so our left friends are ignorant about it.

"Do these ranchers really want illegal aliens, drug cartels and other criminals trespassing all over their property?"

If the people of Texas and those areas were against it, the Gov. would NOT be pursuing building the wall himself.
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Old 06-16-2021, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Dems think 5 billion dollars is too much to pay for border security. Meanwhile we're spending 10 x that on housing and feeding illegals pouring into our country. We have no idea who lives in our country anymore.
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Old 06-16-2021, 05:26 AM
 
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Dems think 5 billion dollars is too much to pay for border security. Meanwhile we're spending 10 x that on housing and feeding illegals pouring into our country. We have no idea who lives in our country anymore.
It's too much money to spend on something that does not solve the problem, alleviate the burden within the USA. We need a comprehensive stragtegy to address the multi-faceted issues with immigration.

We need better tracking of visas.
We need to 'help' Central American countries to improve the conditions in their countries so people don't flock to the USA for asylum. The problems in these countries have escalated and we have seen increasing surges in the last 10 years. Nothing has been done to deal with that problem.

Border entry points have to be better staffed, have better resources to deal with the problem.

We need to have strong policies that dictate what the 'goals' are for immigration and that includes setting limits on immigration.

But a wall does little without all of the above -- other than give the false sense that we are 'protecting' our borders.

As we have seen --- if people want -- they will figure out how to get over, under and around the wall. We want to stop that from happening.

And through it all --- for the families, children, etc.....that are either trying to 'sneak in' or get asylum status -- we need to have resources to process them appropriately. Systems to find family of those kids.

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Old 06-16-2021, 05:41 AM
 
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Dems think 5 billion dollars is too much to pay for border security. Meanwhile we're spending 10 x that on housing and feeding illegals pouring into our country. We have no idea who lives in our country anymore.
Not only that but we are already spending over $100 billion a year on those who are here already here. Yeah, let's increase those costs by allowing more of them into our country. WTH is wrong with these leftists?
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Old 06-16-2021, 07:28 AM
 
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My paper says the governor wants the new wall to be crowd funded.

The plan is for the state to arrest anybody who tampers with their wall. They will be arrested for trespassing and vandalism.

Works for me. I'll even send money.
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Old 06-16-2021, 09:10 AM
 
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Oh yeah, Texas, the place where people can't even get decent electricity but want to pay for an useless wall.
Useless wall? It's 90% effective in deterring illegal entry. Someone else in here already addressed the electricity problem in Texas but is a totally unrelated issue anyway. Without national security nothing else matters anyway.

Oh lookey, another June newbie complaining about border security. Who do you guys think you are fooling?
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Old 06-16-2021, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Most of the FOTB we're getting come through Mexico, but they originate from Central America. I haven't hired a Mexican FOTB all year. Our labor restriction laws have become so lax that there's quite a few that just look surprised that they have to bring proof of being allowed to work in the country....as some other place has apparently allowed it.


Nothing like poaching from your competitors only to find out the person isn't supposed to work here at all. Not that California will do a damn thing about it. The real disservice is that we could use workers, and these people obviously need work, but there's confusion as to how to do it the right way because enforcement is so haphazard.



Just setup the system, don't make it take 20 years and get it running.
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Old 06-16-2021, 09:18 AM
 
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If the wall is paid for by crowd sourcing who owns it? IDK how the state can be involved or arrest people for vandalism and trespassing.

AFA electricity is concerned, the jury is still out on that one. The lege says they fixed it. Many in the know say they didn't.

All I know is that is it hot in Houston and I have been asked to cut way back on usage. Turn up the thermostat and do not use washer, oven and dishwasher during the day.
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Old 06-16-2021, 10:04 AM
 
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Most of the FOTB we're getting come through Mexico, but they originate from Central America. I haven't hired a Mexican FOTB all year. Our labor restriction laws have become so lax that there's quite a few that just look surprised that they have to bring proof of being allowed to work in the country....as some other place has apparently allowed it.


Nothing like poaching from your competitors only to find out the person isn't supposed to work here at all. Not that California will do a damn thing about it. The real disservice is that we could use workers, and these people obviously need work, but there's confusion as to how to do it the right way because enforcement is so haphazard.



Just setup the system, don't make it take 20 years and get it running.
We need foreign workers for what? Leaf blowing, flipping hamburgers? We already have several visas for workers that we actually need but even in the IT business these visas are created to undermine fair wages to Americans. As for blue-collared workers Americans have always done those jobs for a fair wage until millions of cheap illegals flooded our border. I couldn't care less about the needs of foreigners I care about the needs of Americans!
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