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Old 06-25-2021, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Originally Posted by greywar View Post
When the pay cant let you rent a place, the problem isn't that they dont believe i hard work, the problem is that employees arent paying a livable wage in the area.

One of the issues some in Amazon are starting to express is the massive turnover at places like these. Its enough that they have concerns that they may run out of people willing to work for them.
She can most certainly rent a place, but it would mean she would have roommates. Not wanting roommates does not mean that anyone owes her more money.

It is beyond stupid now that so many continue to spew this type of bs. No one is stopping her from renting a place except herself.

Also, the high turn over at Amazon is not 'new information'. That's been a known thing for over a decade. Plenty of people will take her place. Amazon is a business. They are not there to ensure that you live a comfy lifestyle. They are there to do business.

I do not agree with a lot of things Amazon does, but being the sole provider for your lifestyle is NOT their duty.

 
Old 06-25-2021, 10:06 AM
 
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I do not agree with a lot of things Amazon does, but being the sole provider for your lifestyle is NOT their duty.
Amen.
 
Old 06-25-2021, 11:11 AM
 
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10 minutes from where I live in CT , Amazon is building a pretty big facility. I keep getting E mails nearly every day asking for applications for jobs from $ 20 and hour to $ 37 an hour. The average one bedroom , one bath apartment in the area rents for $ 1200 a month. No one appears to be concerned.
 
Old 06-25-2021, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I feel bad for her, but what's Amazon supposed to do? She's already being paid nearly $20 for a warehouse type job.
Amazon can use their money to back city council candidates who will eliminate rent control.

The problem with rent control is that it prevents the creation of new housing.

Right?

I own a vacant 180-unit apartment building.

Why would I spend money to conduct lead/asbestos abatement as required by the EPA if I can't charge a rent high enough to recoup my costs on lead/asbestos abatement?

More to the point, why would I spend money to rehab the building for occupancy if I cannot charge a rent high enough to recover the money I spent?

Even if I razed the building and built a new one, why would I do that if I cannot charge a rent high enough to cover the money I spent?

No one in the right mind would do that, which is why a lot of apartment buildings are vacant.

I get why NYC did that. Beginning in 1938, you had rampant Wage Inflation. That's where 10%-12% of skill-sets/jobs are rising rapidly (in the period 1968-1971 some wages rose 500% due to Wage Inflation) and everyone else sucks pond water up their arse.

That causes prices to rise, which is fine if you're the beneficiary of Wage Inflation, but not even cool if you're not one of the 10%-12% seeing your wages rise.

A temporary price control is the solution (unfortunately FDR and Nixon were too damn stupid to see that and enacted a Wage & Price Freeze) but the operand is "temporary."

As soon as Wage Inflation is under control, you remove the price freezes.

If that girl wants, she can come here where I live, because there's several Amazon facilities in the area she could buy a nice house on $20/hour instead of renting.

But, I'm sure she'll find A-Million-and-One Excuses why she cannot, so double dumb-ass on her.
 
Old 06-25-2021, 01:49 PM
 
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Then you get some roommates until you are making more $.
Same as always.
 
Old 06-25-2021, 04:11 PM
 
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Her story popped up on FB. She leases her car and rents a storage unit. This is BS. She's just dumb.
 
Old 06-25-2021, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by jazzy jeff View Post
Many in NYC share apartments, even those with 6 figure salaries in the nicer parts of Manhattan.
Landlords allow as long as all roommates are named on the lease. The sticky part is when one wants to leave and stick the other or others with the balance of the lease.
Happened to my old man back in the early 70's, well, the roommate didn't leave, he just lost his job and didn't look for another one, leaving my dad to pay the full rent himself for the remainder of the lease. He then turned in the keys once the lease was up, told the roommate he was on his own, and had to find a new place.

That's why I never had roommates. I stayed with family until I could afford my own place
 
Old 06-25-2021, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Because we New Yorkers order a *f* ton of stuff from Amazon on a daily basis. That's why.

Toss in Metro NYC area that includes NJ, Westchester and Long Island, and you're talking about thousands of packages *per day*.

All I see in trash cans, out for collection on trash days is tons of Amazon boxes and envelopes. Each day package room of my building like every other in city is packed with deliveries from Amazon....
Same thing here in SoCal, it's expensive here too, but Amazon has a crapload of DC's here
 
Old 06-26-2021, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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You responded to my post that was responding to a person who wants to hand out free money... in fact, other people's money.
Sorry for the confusion, we are on the same side. This is not a socialist country and these entitled leftist should expect nothing but what they earn. It sounds like the subject of the OPs article is not NYC material and should move somewhere more affordable. No one is entitled to live in a high end place like that. If you can’t pay the rents then you do not belong there.
 
Old 06-26-2021, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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When the pay cant let you rent a place, the problem isn't that they dont believe i hard work, the problem is that employees arent paying a livable wage in the area.
That's not how it works. The inviolable Laws of Economics do not say anyone needs a "living wage" which no Liberal on this forum as ever attempted to define objectively in no uncertain terms.

For each of the 800+ skill-sets, wages/salaries are determined by the Law of Supply & Demand for a specific skill-set in a given geographic labor area.

As I've mentioned repeatedly, fast-food in this geographic labor areas pays very well. White Castle's starts employees at $13.50/hour with a $0.50/hour raise after 6 months. That is well above both the federal and State minimum wages.

Why? I just explained that. Supply & Demand.

The Supply of people with the fast-food skill-set willing to work is very low, and the Demand is very, very high.

Do fast-food workers in all of the 1,000s of geographic labor markets in the US get paid those rates? No, and I never said they did nor implied they should.

What a person is willing to accept as pay is that person's business and if they wanna work for $7.25/hour, then that is their business and not yours

Just who the hell are all of you to even think you can tell them they're wrong?

All you control-freaks need to mind your own business.
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