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Old 12-05-2021, 12:46 PM
 
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So is drunk driving, which is also a deliberately chosen action taken by some, the consequences of which they must accept whatever they are and whether they like it or not.

It's pretty easy to avoid both: Don't drive when drunk. Use contraception correctly each and every time.
Drunk driving includes consequences involving other fully formed humans.

Abortion does not. It's a choice between a fully formed human life and an embryo or fetus.

Comparing pregnancy to drunk driving is ridiculous.

 
Old 12-05-2021, 12:51 PM
 
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Homicide is always others' business. That's why homicide trials have witnesses.
Abortion is not homicide.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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In today's times, it's not wars. It's living among a particular demographic group, incidentally, a group that overwhelmingly votes Democrat. Blacks have both the highest abortion rate and the highest murder rate. It's nothing short of a race-based genocide, enacted and made popular by Democrat politicians and their voter base.
Then how would you propose putting a stop to black women getting abortions?
 
Old 12-05-2021, 01:05 PM
 
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Reducing abortions in the US would increase the birth rate, which would decrease the need for immigration.
But the rate of abortion keeps on dropping. If the government would do more to encourage women to have children, such as do more to help raise them, it would help.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 01:06 PM
 
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Abortion is not homicide.
This is where law is inconsistent, as murdered pregnant women have had killers charged with 2 counts of murder, at times.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 01:08 PM
 
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So is drunk driving, which is also a deliberately chosen action taken by some, the consequences of which they must accept whatever they are and whether they like it or not.

It's pretty easy to avoid both: Don't drive when drunk. Use contraception correctly each and every time.
and men have no responsibility in your world? Last I heard about baby making, not in vitro, it takes a male and a female. If you dont like abortion then get men to accept the consequences of their actions. Most do not, don't appear to want to, they think with their penises not their heads!
 
Old 12-05-2021, 01:10 PM
 
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Apparently it isn't. See the attached article about a Mississippi teacher who was disciplined for a demonstration of condom use on a cucumber.
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/te...220646730.html
That article doesn't confirm why she was reprimanded. It just speculates. And there was no specific mention of which law was violated nor specifically how it was violated. IOW, it's propaganda. The Starkville Oktibbeha Consolidated School District teaches an "abstinence-plus" sex ed program, permitted by state law, which includes information on contraception and disease prevention. That includes condoms.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 01:14 PM
 
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That ship has sailed with the current mask and vaccine mandates. Local, state and the federal government clearly can and do determine what people can and can't do with their bodies. That legal precedent has been set.
Bear in mind that many mask mandates have expired or been overturned. Vaccine mandates have been challenged in court. The same could happen to bans on abortion.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 01:15 PM
 
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and men have no responsibility in your world? Last I heard about baby making, not in vitro, it takes a male and a female. If you dont like abortion then get men to accept the consequences of their actions. Most do not, don't appear to want to, they think with their penises not their heads!
For the umpteenth time! Of course men share in the responsibility but it isn't he that gets pregnant but his female partner. She has the option of accepting his sperm into her body that could result in her becoming pregnant or not. If I were a female I would make sure that myself were protected and/or that my male partner were protected if I didn't want an unwanted pregnancy to occur within "my" body.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Why are you even asking that question? Overturning Roe v. Wade won't ban abortions. It would just return the regulation of abortion to each state which brings such regulation in compliance with the US Constitution's Article 1 Section 8 and the 10th Amendment.
Okay, then would you quite strongly oppose exceptions to abortion bans on pregnant women who were raped?
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