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Old 12-12-2021, 06:23 PM
 
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Except everything isn't 'Us vs. Them'.

There are plenty of people who are conservative on other issues but who are pro-choice.
True, and there are millions of Pro-life Democrats, btw, and a considerable % of independents are pro life, as well.

This ruling will see lots of noise, but little affect at the ballot box.

The South btw polls far more Pro Life than Pro choice.

 
Old 12-12-2021, 06:40 PM
 
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True, and there are millions of Pro-life Democrats, btw, and a considerable % of independents are pro life, as well.

This ruling will see lots of noise, but little affect at the ballot box.


The South btw polls far more Pro Life than Pro choice.
Re the bolded....I think that waits to be seen. Not immediately, but if Roe is overturned and it becomes understood more globally.....we'll see.
 
Old 12-12-2021, 06:44 PM
 
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How about my friends whose 4th child was conceived after she had a tubal ligation? Did they make a mistake or fail to use contraception correctly?
Are you saying their doctor didn't tell them that pregnancy was unlikely, but still possible, after tubal litigation? (In the real world, everyone knows this and doesn't need to be told by a doctor). It's not an absolute certainty that you will die if you drive your car into a tree at 70mph, but it would be pretty dumb to bet against it. I'm not sure you understand the concept of personal responsibility. I'll make it easy for you: Prior to engaging in an action, understand the consequences, no matter how unlikely, and accept them before proceeding.
 
Old 12-12-2021, 06:55 PM
 
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What happens after RvW is overturned?


Not much. Abortions will continue to be legal and readily available in all states that don't make laws against them.

Actually far more Americans will approve of this situation, since people who want to continue abortions can persuade their state legislatures to vote that way, and people who don't want them, can persuade their state legislatures in that direction.

A few liberals who want to control the country by a few court verdicts rather than passing actual laws approved by the people, will be upset and unhappy. But then, liberals are always upset and unhappy.
LOL.

If you lived in one of those states, rather than in California, you might laugh at your own statement.
 
Old 12-12-2021, 06:57 PM
 
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Re the bolded....I think that waits to be seen. Not immediately, but if Roe is overturned and it becomes understood more globally.....we'll see.
I do not expect an actual overturn of Roe but expect viability standard to be set aside at federal level, and Jackson will lose this appeal.
 
Old 12-12-2021, 07:05 PM
 
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I can almost guarantee you that there will be a charitable industry that revolves around this. Maybe they could save seats in busses when they bring in out of state voters. If you want an abortion and aren't able to travel across a state line you don't want it badly enough.

There will be tons of offers on social media etc. for those needing a ticket.
Perhaps, but not in Texas.
 
Old 12-12-2021, 07:07 PM
 
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If you really want to make abortion your business in an anti-sort of way, have you ever stood outside an abortion clinic and begged women not to enter?
Do you grab pregnant women and drag them to PP so you can pay for their abortion?

If you don't, I'm not convinced how supportive you are of abortions.

C'mon, let us know how many pregnant women you've convinced to get abortions. And how much you've spent on them.
 
Old 12-12-2021, 07:12 PM
 
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The simple answer is if the SC overturns this Mississippi abortion law (which by the way is not abortion ban but a heart beat law) it will be turned over back to the states where it belonged in the first place.
Guess what...the state voters in each state will get the final word, so what is all the fuss.
Because no woman who wants an abortion but can't afford to go to another state should be denied one just because there are too many idiots in her state.
 
Old 12-12-2021, 07:20 PM
 
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Nope. TX law doesn't apply to actions that take place in other states.
Yes. Texas law does not specify where the abortion takes place nor the place where the person sueing or being sued lives.
 
Old 12-12-2021, 07:26 PM
 
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I'm not dismissing rape victims' concerns. I've never advocated removing the right of rape victims to abort. Again, that's only 0.3% of all abortions. Over 98% of abortions are performed solely for the sake of the woman's and/or her sex partner's convenience.


Where are your numbers from. You keep copying and pasting without the source.



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