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Did you read the OP? So you think Biden outvoting Trump by tens of thousands of votes more than Hillary did (in some cases hundreds of thousands of votes) in non-swing Dem states and also narrowing the gap by thousands to tens of thousands of votes in non-swing Rep states was legit?? By for some reason the same thing happening in the swing states that decided the election was fraudulent??? Huh? Do you realised how detached from reality that sounds?
Do you realize how detached from reality the belief that a man who clearly has some form of cognitive decay not only beat a sitting president but got more votes than even Obama did? Or that after a year of riots and unrest, vocal democratic democrats advocating for a socialist America that this same political party would win total control of the country?
While that's all very interesting, it fails to explain why a brain dead idiot with a massively corrupt family and who can barely string two sentences together outperformed Hillary Clinton. Clinton wasn't great, but to this day she can actually speak coherently.
Hillary Clinton, whether deserved or not, was smeared for decades by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and she was stuck with much of that baggage.
Do you realize how detached from reality the belief that a man who clearly has some form of cognitive decay not only beat a sitting president but got more votes than even Obama did? Or that after a year of riots and unrest, vocal democratic democrats advocating for a socialist America that this same political party would win total control of the country?
Why? 3 am truckloads of fraudulent ballots in a select handful of swing states where mass cheating could make a difference. Mail in ballots that could not be verified were a guaranteed plus for leftist, it almost was a invitation to cheat.
The coup was carried out in a small number of states....Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Arizona. These states were the ones that made a difference and these states are where the leftists cheated. Nothing the leftists say will ever convince me that our current government is legitimate. As far as I am concerned the leftist government in Washington has no right to rule at all. It is 100 percent illegitimate.
Wow, those are some very serious allegations. Care to share your proof. That's right, there is none.
However there is proof that Trump attempted a coup on his own. About 500 of his cult members were arrested and are now on trial. The whole thing is on video too!
There is absolutely no evidence of widespread voter fraud anywhere, it's garbage.
You are correct in your analysis, good job QuakerBaker!
I would say a few things to answer your initial question.
Donald Trump's rhetoric is unpopular with most Americans, particularly his bigotry. Most of the policies he pursued as President were also unpopular with the public. I think his rolling back of environmental regulations and civil rights protections, immigration policies, trade policies, and weakening of the Affordable Care Act were particularly unpopular. And even though there was a perception amongst some voters that his handling of the economy was strong, most Americans didn't see it in their everyday lives before the 2020 recession since in reality, the economy was weak all along. Additionally, Trump's COVID response and rhetoric hurt his chances of winning in 2020. Furthermore, all of the cronyism, lies, drama, and unconstitutionality we saw during the Trump administration made him even less popular.
I think what you saw between 2016 and 2020 was a number of independent and centrist voters go from supporting Trump to Biden. This was especially true in suburbia. Consider these numbers:
A. Delaware County, Ohio
2016: Trump 55% Clinton 40%
2020: Trump 53% Biden 47%
B. Jefferson County, Colorado
2016: Clinton 49% Trump 42%
2020: Biden 58% Trump 39%
C. Northampton County, Pennsylvania
2016: Trump 50% Clinton 46%
2020: Biden 50% Trump 49%
Trump did hold his own in rural counties and percentage wise, he even saw a slight improvement in these counties in some cases. Consider these numbers:
A. Crawford County, Pennsylvania
2016: Trump 66% Clinton 29%
2020: Trump 70% Biden 31%
B. Franklin County, Maine
2016: Trump 48% Clinton 43%
2020: Trump 50% Biden 46%
C. Williams County, North Dakota
2016: Trump 79% Clinton 14%
2020: Trump 82% Biden 15%
My opinion: Obviously, Biden did about as well as any other Democrat in most larger cities. I believe Biden built a coalition that consisted of uniting the entire Democratic Party and winning support from independents and moderates. Furthermore, he also won support from voting blocs that had voted Republican before; including the college educated and senior citizens. Trump held onto his hardcore base and managed to increase his support from some rural, white working class voters. He also improved his numbers with Hispanic Americans, according to some data. But he also motivated his opponents and those who were more or less neutral in 2016 to vote for Biden.
Why? 3 am truckloads of fraudulent ballots in a select handful of swing states where mass cheating could make a difference. Mail in ballots that could not be verified were a guaranteed plus for leftist, it almost was a invitation to cheat.
The coup was carried out in a small number of states....Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Arizona. These states were the ones that made a difference and these states are where the leftists cheated. Nothing the leftists say will ever convince me that our current government is legitimate. As far as I am concerned the leftist government in Washington has no right to rule at all. It is 100 percent illegitimate.
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Originally Posted by SeaMaj7
Thousands of unfolded "mail-in" ballots were counted freshly delivered in the dark of the night.
That's the REAL insurrection!!!
I just don't understand how this could possibly happen. Have you ever seen a mail in ballot? It is not just a piece of paper that someone has written a name on and it gets counted like a grade school election. Mail in ballots have all of the races and questions for a given jurisdictions, meaning that ballots are usually very unique for a given area given the local races that are on there like school board races or county level questions. So how can there be "truckloads" of ballots in a central location be ready to be driven to these swing states where it would take at best hours to days to be driven to the swing state. This also doesn't take into consideration that these fake ballots have to be printed with the bar codes necessary to be read to the voting machines and match to database information (I know that rules vary by state but at the very least some kind of "valid" ballot information is needed. This would include a valid voter address, a match to a ballot request, a signature match). Some states require that the ballot be in and timestamped by election day so a middle of the night delivery was not possible.
I would be willing to entertain this theory if anyone could actually prove how any of these theories could actually be executed to bypass all of the safeguards that are built into the system.
It was a perfect storm. The pandemic brought about uncertainty in the country, the George Floyd shooting and riots happened, and Biden was falsely being presented as a "centrist" who would unite the country who would not be as polarizing as Trump.
It was all a good setup, not in the sense of the election fraud theory which I don't believe in but rather in terms of the series of events that helped Biden get support. The media was working overtime to blame Trump for every tragedy that was happening in this country: Pandemic happened and spread(Blame Trump), economy weakened because of the pandemic(blame Trump), George Floyd got killed(blame Trump), riots happened(blame Trump), etc. Plus, you had Fauci who has become the Pope of public health smearing Trump and Trump's lack of temperament in and out of social media was evident.
It was all a perfect storm to make Biden look like a good alternative. Most of the people who voted for Biden did so to spite Trump. This includes some establishment Republicans who announced that they were Biden supporters and encouraged "moderate" Republicans to vote for him as well.(People overlook this too.)
And, as I mentioned earlier, Biden was falsely being touted as this moderate/Centrist candidate who could unify the country. I remember reading a lot of articles about Biden being a moderate and a "safe" option. Of course, it all turned out to be a complete ruse because you can literally argue that Biden right now is slightly further left than Obama but that's how the media was portraying him and his soft/calm demeanor in comparison to Trump played a big role in that perception as well.
Overall, Biden basically had the election handed to him on a silver platter. It was the perfect setup. Unfortunately for Biden, in the 2022 and 2024 elections, Biden will no longer have the luxury of pulling out a trump card(pun partially intended) to make him look good or fool people into thinking he's a moderate. We all now know that he's a full blown Leftist and any issues we're currently dealing with rest with him and not Trump. If Biden does manage to win in 2024 somehow, that's when I'll start believing in the election fraud conspiracy because then I'll know for sure that something's wrong.
Why? 3 am truckloads of fraudulent ballots in a select handful of swing states where mass cheating could make a difference. Mail in ballots that could not be verified were a guaranteed plus for leftist, it almost was a invitation to cheat.
The coup was carried out in a small number of states....Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Arizona. These states were the ones that made a difference and these states are where the leftists cheated. Nothing the leftists say will ever convince me that our current government is legitimate. As far as I am concerned the leftist government in Washington has no right to rule at all. It is 100 percent illegitimate.
other than the minor detail that this is all made up garbage with zero evidence, sure. Even Trump's own attorneys didn't bother to argue to the courts that there was fraud, because they knew there was no proof and they could be sanctioned for lying to the court.
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