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Old 08-04-2021, 10:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
I will blame landlords, since their profession (if you want to call it that), is zero sum. They get richer by making their tenants poorer two fold. First, them owing multiple properties leaves less on the market, forcing more people to rent. And 2nd, with what their tenants have to pay in rent, they would have to live like a homeless person to ever get a sizeable down-payment together
So stupid. Such a hater. Rental housing is a trade. Both parties mutually profit. The tenant gets a nice place to live that he couldn’t afford to buy or build. The landlord gets a nice income stream. Nobody is compelled, it’s freely negotiated. But no, for you it’s just the jealousy. Envy, envy, envy. It’s all about the envy.

You could also make yourself more valuable and better. Then you could have more nice green dollars.
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Old 08-04-2021, 10:28 AM
 
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Just because I'm doing well, doesn't mean I've lost touch with my principles or stopped caring about the less fortunate, like so many on here
How many homeless have you and your girlfriend taken in, to show how much you "care"?
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Old 08-04-2021, 10:28 AM
 
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I will blame landlords, since their profession (if you want to call it that), is zero sum. They get richer by making their tenants poorer two fold. First, them owing multiple properties leaves less on the market, forcing more people to rent. And 2nd, with what their tenants have to pay in rent, they would have to live like a homeless person to ever get a sizeable down-payment together
"Making their tenants poorer"? Ridiculous.

I am told you are a trucker by someone who chose to speak for you since you didn't speak for yourself. Do you own your own rig? Lease?, or have the company provide one for you? IOW, for this rolling home that can be your 'house on wheels', do you rent or own.
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Old 08-04-2021, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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I read stories that these people that didn't pay their rent say they didn't know they had to pay it all back when the extension was over.

Did these people think they got a free pass on rent ? No wonder Amazon, etc. made bank over the past year...people spent their rent money on STUFF.

Now they have no money to pay their rent arrears.
it would seem this is far more common than just an "anecdotal here or there". Given the general intelligence and awareness of your average adult, I'm sure this group far exceeds the "those who worked diligently with their landlord".
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Old 08-04-2021, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Irrelevant though. They didn't give it authority to pass legislation. They granted it authority in legislation. Supreme Court has already ruled that the CDC extending the eviction moratorium was within the authority granted to it in the CARES Act. As I stated, it was rather wish-washy so I wouldn't be particularly surprised if SCOTUS reversed itself on the issue.
and here I thought the SCOTUS said the exact opposite. Which is why Biden says his extension (well, he had Walensky/CDC do it) would lose in court.
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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As CDC’s Eviction Moratorium Ends, States Prepare for Flood of Cases
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Brandon Moore, store manager of a Dollar General in northeast Fort Worth, Texas, stands outside his workplace, which is located in an area with high eviction rates and low COVID-19 vaccination rates.

"FORT WORTH, Texas — Brandon Moore, 31, has received at least three eviction notices from his landlord since last summer, when his wife lost her retail job. None of these notices included information about a nationwide eviction moratorium or the $46 billion in rental assistance available for families financially affected by COVID-19."
he's 31 and has six children. He also hasn't been vaxxed and doesn't plan to, nor has his wife or any of the kids (if any of the 6 are eligible).

Some states have decided it's incumbent on the landlord to tell the tenant what is involved with eviction, and how they can avoid it. Of course "pay your rent as agreed" is not likely on there. Nor is "communicate with your landlord so they understand your situation".
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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It is principled and compassionate if you are voluntarily paying someone’s rent for them, no questions asked as to why they can’t pay it, out of the goodness of your heart. It is a total lack of compassion if you are forcing me to pay someone else’s rent. It is even more galling that it is immaterial whether they should be capable of paying it or whether I have the resources to pay it.

My property manager, who only represents small private landlords, has eight units that have paid nothing during the moratorium, including our one. She says one of her clients is going to be foreclosed on and at least two others are struggling. Where is your compassion for those three people/families? It looks like I will probably have to hold off retiring for an additional year or two to make up for our losses. How is that fair?
because in their world, you are the "bad" one because you saved money, and decided to invest in a rental property, and you can charge what the market will bear. And so, any losses you endure are merely making up for the pain you've caused to those who "have to" rent (because of their life's actions) and it was unfair in the first place for you to ever raise their rent.
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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My property manager, who only represents small private landlords, has eight units that have paid nothing during the moratorium, including our one. ...How is that fair?
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Don't expect any sympathy from me, the simple fact that you own multiple properties means you're doing better than the vast majority of people in this country, who don't have any assets
jeebus, I hadn't even read this response. See, the truth - that OldHag owns ONE as she said - doesn't matter to the progressives of the world. Didn't even comprehend your post. Saw "I'm a landlord", and thus by your mere existence, you are thus part of the problem.
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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You might want to look at the corporations buying up entire neighborhoods as a greater threat than mom and pop landlords, who are the ones suffering the most from this unconstitutional/criminal government action against them. See what happens when two companies own everything, they own you.
I do, so we see eye to eye there, but just because a great white shark is more of a threat than a piranha doesn't make the piranha not a threat
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:19 AM
 
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Lol, I'd venture that most do work hard, but that most don't get rewarded for it. Some choose the wrong profession, and some just get lucky
False.

I’ve worked with a lot of people over the last 22 years. Most of them were lazy pieces of garbage.

The few willing to work hard (white, black, men, women, college educated, not college educated) have all done very well for themselves.

I have never even one time in my life met a hard working person who couldn’t get ahead.

This is the number one reason why I vote Republican. I’ve seen hard work pay off for so many people, from very diverse backgrounds.
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