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Old 07-31-2021, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Houston
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It seems possible the pandemic only exists because people were trying to fix problems that didn't exist - I'm not interested in moving forward until there is a definitive answer, and I'm no longer interested in enabling GoF research by accepting vaccines from the industry that might have caused the pandemic in the first place.

I think it's better that people die, if it opens humanities eyes to the dangerous road which are heading down.
You're certainly free to believe in whichever unsubstantiated claim you wish. In the meantime, however, you are endangering the lives of those you come in contact with. You don't have the right to put the lives of other people in danger like that

 
Old 07-31-2021, 05:42 PM
 
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This story about Shake Shack is a nothing burger.
 
Old 07-31-2021, 06:01 PM
 
Location: California
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My place of employment reopened recently and also required proof of vax to be inside and unmasked, everyone else had to have a mask but could still come in.
 
Old 07-31-2021, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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You're certainly free to believe in whichever unsubstantiated claim you wish. In the meantime, however, you are endangering the lives of those you come in contact with. You don't have the right to put the lives of other people in danger like that
I don't believe in it as such, rather just think that it does seem quite possible that there was a little too much ego and profit involved in finding cures for pandemics that had yet too occur. - and I do think there does seem to be a lack of will of establishing the source of the outbreak, and for that reason, have no interest in getting the jab.

Other people's lives aren't my problem - this is largely a disease of the unhealthy, and they need to take better care of themselves. Those that aren't proactive in taking care of their own health, shouldn't expect everyone else to compromise their values and ethics to save them ..... I have no interest in being part of this cynical eat yourself to bad health/mass inject the whole world nonsense.
 
Old 07-31-2021, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I don't believe in it as such, rather just think that it does seem quite possible that there was a little too much ego and profit involved in finding cures for pandemics that had yet too occur. - and I do think there does seem to be a lack of will of establishing the source of the outbreak, and for that reason, have no interest in getting the jab.

Other people's lives aren't my problem - this is largely a disease of the unhealthy, and they need to take better care of themselves. Those that aren't proactive in taking care of their own health, shouldn't expect everyone else to compromise their values and ethics to save them ..... I have no interest in being part of this cynical eat yourself to bad health/mass inject the whole world nonsense.
Other people's lives most certainly are your problem. None of us live in a vacuum. We are all part of a larger society.

Your response is one I would expect from someone who does not understand that poor dietary choices and lack of exercise are not always the root cause of sickness and disease. And neither of those are the cause of COVID. I'm not sure where you're getting your information but to hold an opinion like that is nothing more than willful ignorance. I'm not going to spend any more time trying to get through to you but you should educate yourself on disease vectors and genetics. But I know you won't so that's where I'll leave you, to your ignorance.
 
Old 07-31-2021, 10:12 PM
 
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I don't believe in it as such, rather just think that it does seem quite possible that there was a little too much ego and profit involved in finding cures for pandemics that had yet too occur. - and I do think there does seem to be a lack of will of establishing the source of the outbreak, and for that reason, have no interest in getting the jab.

Other people's lives aren't my problem - this is largely a disease of the unhealthy,
and they need to take better care of themselves. Those that aren't proactive in taking care of their own health, shouldn't expect everyone else to compromise their values and ethics to save them ..... I have no interest in being part of this cynical eat yourself to bad health/mass inject the whole world nonsense.
The bolded is just not true.

Of the 8 people I know who got Covid only 2 of them were unhealthy.......1 very and 1 moderately.

The other 6 were on the extreme end of healthy. Healthy diets, exercise and even jobs that require them to have a healthy BMI.
 
Old 07-31-2021, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Good for Shake Shack. Other businesses will follow suit. I 100% support this.
Yes, God forbid the unvaccinated can’t get their daily dose of obesity and clogged arteries from burgers and fries.

What a tragedy. Won’t someone think of the kids?
 
Old 07-31-2021, 10:15 PM
 
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There business their rules
 
Old 07-31-2021, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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The bolded is just not true.

Of the 8 people I know who got Covid only 2 of them were unhealthy.......1 very and 1 moderately.

The other 6 were on the extreme end of healthy. Healthy diets, exercise and even jobs that require them to have a healthy BMI.
Logically, I'm not talking about contracting it, but about those who die from it - unless you are trying to say that based on your examples, health authorities the world over are lying about it being related to other health factors? .... sounds a little conspiratorial.
 
Old 07-31-2021, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Other people's lives most certainly are your problem. None of us live in a vacuum. We are all part of a larger society.

Your response is one I would expect from someone who does not understand that poor dietary choices and lack of exercise are not always the root cause of sickness and disease. And neither of those are the cause of COVID. I'm not sure where you're getting your information but to hold an opinion like that is nothing more than willful ignorance. I'm not going to spend any more time trying to get through to you but you should educate yourself on disease vectors and genetics. But I know you won't so that's where I'll leave you, to your ignorance.
Sounds like you are trying to argue that this doesn't mostly kill those who have risk factors largely related to lifestyle choices ..... ookkkaaaay.

True about not living in a vacuum - those who prematurely sicken themselves through poor choices, impact us all.

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