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Old 08-05-2021, 02:53 PM
 
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Not sure why everyone is worried about a harmless vaccine? I agree that it’s probably nothing more than a placebo, but the odds of it hurting you in anyway is basically nil.

I’ve already had the vaccine shots months ago. I’m fine.

I also think masks are worthless, but it doesn’t bother me to wear it.

The thing I do have a problem with are lockdowns, though. Those are useless too, and I refuse to be locked down any further. I will go where I want to, and let the chips fall where they may.
I don't know if you are serious but it is far better than a placebo but also may not be a marmless vaccine to all. It is a new technology and I don't believe we know the potential long term effects. I remember when asbestos was a lifesaver (actually it probably was but it also caused long term harm)
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Old 08-05-2021, 02:57 PM
 
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Not sure why everyone is worried about a harmless vaccine? I agree that it’s probably nothing more than a placebo, but the odds of it hurting you in anyway is basically nil.

I’ve already had the vaccine shots months ago. I’m fine.

I also think masks are worthless, but it doesn’t bother me to wear it.

The thing I do have a problem with are lockdowns, though. Those are useless too, and I refuse to be locked down any further. I will go where I want to, and let the chips fall where they may.
Many people are concerned about the effects years from now, not right after you get it.

Like Agent Orange, the side effects did not present themselves until years after exposure.
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Old 08-05-2021, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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It's just conditioning. Getting you used to the idea of living under an iron boot while they have a bug they can exploit to justify the actions.

Mandates, lockdowns, government choosing winners & losers... get used to it. This is just the beginning, and if you think we're ever going back to anything resembling what life looked like two years ago or more, you're wrong. Very, very wrong.

"You'll rent everything, and like it." (IOW, you'll be a slave).
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Old 08-05-2021, 03:03 PM
 
Location: DFW
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The liberal and GOP establishment politicians will keep enacting even more strict and painful mandates until people start fighting back in large numbers. Most people especially women seem to support all these measures. I think it will get a lot worse and not likely ever again any better. Women biologically need security and will do anything to achieve.
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Old 08-05-2021, 03:46 PM
 
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I want it to be approved by the FDA before I consider it. I also had Covid and still have antibodies. How can places mandate a vaccine that isn’t approved by the FDA or for children under 12.
FDA approval hardly means anything. They already made it clear they'll approve it, not to mention they, like anyone else, don't know the long term effects of the vaccines. Normal vaccine approval takes at least 5 years.

In view that the ex-FDA commissioner became a Pfizer board member as soon as leaving FDA, it's reasonable to assume some of the current FDA approval board members are looking forward to a position at one of the big pharmas. So, conflicts of interests.

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Old 08-05-2021, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Houston
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It's just conditioning. Getting you used to the idea of living under an iron boot while they have a bug they can exploit to justify the actions.

Mandates, lockdowns, government choosing winners & losers... get used to it. This is just the beginning, and if you think we're ever going back to anything resembling what life looked like two years ago or more, you're wrong. Very, very wrong.

"You'll rent everything, and like it." (IOW, you'll be a slave).
In ten years this virus will be treated just like the flu and it will be obvious even to most antivax nutcases that they have to find something else to wet their pants about.
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Old 08-05-2021, 04:02 PM
 
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I don’t think it’s legal but I think there will be a point were you won’t be able to go anywhere without showing your vaccine card and I think it’s scary.
No, it will not be universal. What is the point supposed to be? To protect vaccinated people? That's not necessary, and it won't fly in some parts of the country.
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Old 08-05-2021, 04:08 PM
 
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FDA approval hardly means anything. They already made it clear they'll approve it, not to mention they, like anyone else, don't know the long term effects of the vaccines. Normal vaccine approval takes at least 5 years.

In view that the ex-FDA commissioner became a Pfizer board member as soon as leaving FDA, it's reasonable to assume some of the current FDA approval board members are looking forward to a position at one of the big pharmas. So, conflicts of interests.
Fauci is thinking just weeks until approval for Pfizer. Totally agree about the revolving door between Pharma and the gov't gatekeepers. I wish more people would look into it so they too would see the conflict of interest.

https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-hopes-p...002400130.html
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Old 08-05-2021, 04:09 PM
 
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In ten years this virus will be treated just like the flu and it will be obvious even to most antivax nutcases that they have to find something else to wet their pants about.
It is actually the pro vaccine crowd who are getting their pants wet, the anti vax people for the most part wants everyone to shut up about it, continue as normal, and those who are at high risk, to take the precautions needed.
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Old 08-05-2021, 04:18 PM
 
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I don’t think it’s legal but I think there will be a point were you won’t be able to go anywhere without showing your vaccine card and I think it’s scary.
Completely legal, and part of US History.

https://www.history.com/news/smallpo...-supreme-court
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