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Old 08-22-2021, 08:06 AM
 
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If you say the vaccine is not preventing Delta infection as well as other form of variant, that'd be a true statement. But you imply the vaccine isn't working which is 100% wrong.
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Wow the denial is strong here... hospitalizations are now the majority vaccinated per the facts from the New York times itself.

That is, and was not, the promise.

The promise still is... it will keep you from "serious illness" -- it doesn't. There is ZERO point.
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Old 08-22-2021, 08:07 AM
 
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Most of the time cars don't get in an accident but we put our seat belt on all the time...and I suspect that most people in an accident have a seat belt on -- rather than not....does that mean you shouldn't wear one?
Yes because we don't know the long term effects of these experimental treatments.

It has always been a balancing test, and the side of "get it" has just taken a major hit.
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Old 08-22-2021, 08:07 AM
 
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Blunting is better than nothing.

This country would be locked down again with no vaccines
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Old 08-22-2021, 08:09 AM
 
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Yes because we don't know the long term effects of these experimental treatments.

It has always been a balancing test, and the side of "get it" has just taken a major hit.
If that's what you call a major hit, I guess questioning your judgement would be futile, eh?t
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Old 08-22-2021, 08:09 AM
 
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Wow the denial is strong here... hospitalizations are now the majority vaccinated per the facts from the New York times itself.

That is, and was not, the promise.

The promise still is... it will keep you from "serious illness" -- it doesn't. There is ZERO point.
You're gonna have more vaxxed people in the hospital in a very vaxxed area.

Most people in the hospital overall are the unvaccinated. It's not even close
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Old 08-22-2021, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes because we don't know the long term effects of these experimental treatments.

It has always been a balancing test, and the side of "get it" has just taken a major hit.
Yep. People at work got their shots in June. They are just now getting sick and also having weird rashes in the groin area and a few are having complications with their kidneys.

And I am so glad I never got this crap. And shame on the governments for forcing their constituents to get this vaccine or face fines.
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Old 08-22-2021, 08:21 AM
 
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Civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson, 79, and his wife Jacqueline, 77, are hospitalized with COVID in Chicago: Former presidential candidate is fully vaccinated


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...zed-COVID.html
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Old 08-22-2021, 08:21 AM
 
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You're wrong - the promise is still 100% true.

The only difference is Delta is more contagious so more people are getting infected. Delta can go undetected by the B cell but it will be killed by the T cells - which is exactly what the vaccine is designed to do.

If you say the vaccine is not preventing Delta infection as well as other form of variant, that'd be a true statement. But you imply the vaccine isn't working which is 100% wrong.

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You do understand that your statements don't make much sense to unbiased reader, except for yourself? As Arya noted, you are simply making yourself feel better.



Also, vaccines are not designed to kill anything. They should only trigger body into developing its OWN immunity against a certain agent. How it is accomplished, with how much damage along the way and in the future - that stays mystery, as no one knows. As it is an ongoing development. If you will quote someone from TV, saying that vaccines are absolutely safe, you quoting someone, who also does not know, because there is no long term study. Period. It's a BASIC FACT. All there is is ongoing development of observation of voluntary in vivo trial, called massive vaccination. With daily piling up new cases of adverse responses or deaths.
This is simple Truth and only those, who do not wish to hear or see, will argue that. Human tongue is organ, that has no bones in it. It can be twisted, along with words it produces, whichever way its owner wants to.
With all due respect.
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Old 08-22-2021, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You're gonna have more vaxxed people in the hospital in a very vaxxed area.

Most people in the hospital overall are the unvaccinated. It's not even close
That's not true. And the fake news media will never tell you the real truth. Most of the new cases are coming from the unvaccinated. THis is what I am getting from a relative who is a nurse and whose husband is a doctor. And I'll trust them over Biden plants like you or the MSM.
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Old 08-22-2021, 08:24 AM
 
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Yes, most people dying/in the hospital are unvaccinated
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